Let's Meet The Real Hillary Clinton: "I cry when I think of Hillary winning this one"

[imagine2015]

The Real Hillary Clinton
April 24, 2016
By Lila Garrett
Lila Garrett is a TV writer, director and producer. She also hosts the political talk show “Connect the Dots” on KPFK-FM. She has won a Writer’s Guild Award and two Emmys.


Let’s meet the real Clinton.

She has been running hard as an anti-gun candidate. Really? Then why, in 2008, did her then-opponent, Barack Obama, refer to her as “Annie Oakley”? Clinton was far more lenient on gun control at that time then Sanders ever was. If he’s pro-gun, why does he have a D- rating from the National Rifle Association? And in case you think Clinton has completely turned around on the issue of guns, on March 19 she was given a whopping fundraiser by John Forbes, a major lobbyist of the NRA.

Her foreign policy, endorsed not just by Henry Kissinger and neoconservative Robert Kagan, is lauded by Dick Cheney. Remember him? The Dr. Strangelove of the Bush administration?

Of course he would admire her. As secretary of state, she rarely, if ever, saw a war she didn’t love. She was the primary cheerleader on the lethal attack on and destabilization of Libya. She also strongly supported attacks on Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan and Syria. She gave her blessing to the administration’s weekly drone and bomb attacks on all of these countries and who knows how many more.

Until this presidential campaign, she strongly supported environmentally toxic policies, the Keystone XL pipeline and fracking among them.

Then there is the little under-the-table exchange of $900,000 from Boeing to the Clinton Foundation as the secretary of state granted the company the right to sell warplanes to Saudi Arabia; an additional $10 million has flowed into Clinton coffers from Saudi Arabia, which bought more arms from us than ever before while Clinton was secretary of state. The $10 million went to the Clinton Foundation. Where else would they hide it—under their mattress? And while we’re on the subject, who knows what else is under that mattress? The Clintons are very wealthy people. You don’t get mega-rich on a president’s or a senator’s salary.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked her the key question some months ago. Cooper said:

“You were against same sex marriage. Now you’re for it. You defended Obama’s immigration policies. Now you say they’re too harsh.You’ve supported trade deals dozens of times. Even called them the gold standard. Now suddenly you’re against it. Will you say anything to get elected?”

I have seen Hillary Clinton cry only once. The country loved her for that moment of vulnerability. I could understand it. The year was 2008, and she cried when she lost the presidential election.

It takes less to bring me to tears. I cry when I think of her winning this one.

Read the full article at:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_real_hillary_clinton_20160424

[Thirties Child]

1. I've cried twice over elections. Literally cried.

Cried in 1980 the night Reagan won the election.

Cried in 2004 the night Wes Clark dropped out of the presidential race.

If Hillary wins the nomination, I'll likely cry a third time.

I've felt dissatisfaction with the establishment bubbling in the country, felt Trump had tapped into it on the right, Bernie on the left, thought/hoped it would put Bernie in the White House.

[marlakay]

4. I only cried once over a election

The day after John Kerry lost. It was thinking how could we have another 4 years of Bush and how could people knowing how bad and stupid he was vote for him?

I felt at loss to understand the country. To understand how brainwashed they got on the war and 9-11.

I was working for a small republican company and the kids in their 30's were all happy and gleeful all day. The owner was more respectful and a nice guy he knew the rest of us in office were sad.

[Snarkoleptic]

18. Welp, you were in good company that day.

The whole world had a major WTF moment over that self-inflicted wound.

[Xyzse]

25. Felt the same way... Didn't cry. I was shell-shocked and was just numb for a while.

[CorporatistNation]

9. Hillary Is A "Piece of Work" To Be Sure... Possibly Worst in U.S. History... Yet Madison Avenue...

propaganda remains an effective tool in order to put a "Tool" in office!

Here is Hillary... BTW... Them Transcripts? Where The Fuck Are They ?

Check THIS post on 538... Beautiful analysis!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1819256

[CorporatistNation]

10. The LinkIs EXCELLent But Not What I intended To Post Here... I'll Fix it!

[uponit7771]

2. More of the same Sanders is worth of a "greeting" with the pope type OPs. Hillary is not

... Satan's daughter and doesn't deserve Bush level hatred

[Cal Carpenter]

3. The article said nothing about Satan's daughter

nor did it say a thing about hate or hatred.

It addressed very specific policies she has and does support which are arguably bad for people.

Your post is basically a non sequitur having nothing to do with the author's arguments.

Perhaps you could respond to what this article actually said and defend Clinton's actions, policies and positions that are discussed above?

[imagine2015]

7. Thank you. Exactly.

[Triana]

12. +1. It's her record that's at issue.

No one's saying she's 'satan's daughter' nor are they fomenting hatred.

They ARE looking at her RECORD. And THAT is a legitimate exercise when considering Presidential candidates. That, and following the MONEY that supports them both as a candidate and as a public servant previously. These are legitimate concerns. I'm sorry HRC supporters have such a blind spot when it comes to these things in reference to Hillary. Instead of whining that she's being "unfairly" criticized, please address her RECORD. And the MONEY and the SOURCES of it which she is and has received.

Until you can do that, then you're evidently choosing to do this:

[cui bono]

40. I think you meant to respond to bravena... er... uponit7771.

[Faux pas]

5. K N R-ed

[Snarkoleptic]

6. I am troubled by the corporatist pilot-fish attached to Hillary's campaign.

Unelected, Clinton-supporting superdelegates who simultaneously work in the lobbying industry.

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/17/voters-be-damned/

Jeff Berman, well-known for his delegate-strategy work in the past, is being paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign to organize her delegate-counting effort while himself being a superdelegate. A “top lobbyist” at Bryan Cave LLP, Berman previously worked as a lobbyist for the private prison company Geo Group and as a lobbyist helping TransCanada build support for the Keystone XL.

Bill Shaheen is one of the six New Hampshire superdelegates to endorse Clinton. Shaheen is a prolific party fundraiser, and his law firm is registered to lobby local officials in the state. The most recently available lobbying records show that Shaheen’s firm is registered to lobby on behalf of the American Council of Life Insurers and PainCare Centers, among other clients. PainCare has faced increasing scrutiny as local officials have noted that eight of the 10 most prolific opioid prescribers in New Hampshire’s Medicaid program worked for PainCare. The flood of prescription painkillers has fueled the heroin epidemic in the region, as four out of five heroin addicts report beginning their drug habit with opioids. Bill is the husband of Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.

Joanne Dowdell, another New Hampshire superdelegate, is the senior vice president for global government affairs at News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News. Federal Election Commission reports show Dowdell has contributed directly to multiple Democrats as well as to the News Corp PAC, a company committee that splits its donations between lawmakers of both parties. The News Corp government affairs division works to lobby public officials and regulators.

Superdelegates Jill Alper, Minyon Moore, and Maria Cardona are officials at Dewey Square Group, a lobbying firm that is closely affiliated with the Clinton campaign and retained by the Clinton-supporting Super PACs Priorities USA Action and Correct the Record. Alper and Moore are Clinton advisers who have raised over $100,000 for her campaign. Dewey Square Group, as we’ve reported, was retained by the health insurance industry to undermine health reform efforts in 2009, including proposals to change Medicare Advantage. The firm has previously worked to influence policy on behalf of Enron, Countrywide, Citigroup, Coca-Cola, the U.S. Telecom Association and News Corporation.

Jennifer Cunningham is the managing director of SKDKnickerbocker, a political consulting firm that provides a variety of services, including advertising and direct lobbying of public officials. In recent years, SKDKnickerbocker helped a coalition of corporate clients lobby the Obama administration on a tax cut for overseas earnings; lobbied for weakened rules governing for-profit colleges; and helped a food industry group undermine Michelle Obama’s nutrition guidelines for foods marketed to children. Recent records show that the firm is providing consulting work for Independence USA PAC, the Super PAC backed by billionaire Michael Bloomberg.

Tonio Burgos, a fundraiser for Clinton, is a lobbyist registered to influence New York City officials. Burgos’ current client list includes Verizon, Pfizer, and American Airlines.
Emily Giske, also a lobbyist in New York City, is registered to work on behalf of Airbnb, Yum Brands (the parent company of Taco Bell), Pfizer, and the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association, a trade group for Wall Street firms such as Goldman Sachs, Fidelity, and Bank of America.

[Vinca]

8. I cried out of happiness when Obama won in 2008.

I'll probably cry in November, too. I don't know whether it will be as a result of Trump winning or Hillary winning. Either way it won't be out of happiness.

[cui bono]

24. Hehe... same here! But I'll sob tears of joy when Bernie wins!!!

[oberliner]

11. Sanders also supported getting rid of Qaddafi in Libya

"Look, everybody understands Gaddafi is a thug and murderer. We want to see him go."

And people (including Bernie) keep talking about this D- from the NRA, but that was just for one election cycle. They have also praised him when they have agreed with his stances. In fact, he promotes the same argument about how you don't sue a hardware store for selling you a hammer so why sue a gun store for selling you a gun. That is an NRA line that he repeats.

Clinton got an F incidentally from the NRA in 2006.

[imagine2015]

14. Please post the NRA endorsements of Bernie you claim he received. Links please.

By the way. I support the private ownership of firearms.

Do you?

Or do you think that only cops, the CIA, the FBI and the military should only be permitted to have firearms?

[oberliner]

28. N.R.A. Praises Bernie Sanders for Debate Comments on Gunmakers

Senator Bernie Sanders received praise for his views on gun control on Monday from a group that he would probably like some distance from: the National Rifle Association.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/07/n-r-a-praises-bernie-sanders-for-debate-comments-on-gunmakers/

Please note that I wrote that the NRA has praised him, not endorsed him. The above link indicates as much.

[imagine2015]

36. I agree with Sanders on that point. It's just common sense.

If you get hit by a drunk driver do you think the car maker should be sued.

Of course not.

[oberliner]

38. Are you aware of the Sandy Hook families lawsuit?

Gun makers keep up fight against Sandy Hook families' lawsuit

Excerpt:

The Sandy Hook victims' families argue that the gun makers intentionally market their weapons, including military-grade guns like the AR-15 used in the Newtown massacre, to young men, some of whom may be inclined to violence. The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in December 2012 was the second most deadly in U.S. history.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/sandy-hook-gun-makers-lawsuit/

The NRA along with Bernie Sanders, and apparently you, are backing the gun manufacturers in this case. Which is fine, but it is a difference of opinion.

[imagine2015]

42. Do you favor making it illegal for civilians to own fireams?

Well?

Do you?

I don't.

And do you also favor lawsuits against the makers of high speed sports cars involved in accidents subject to lawsuits because the companies marketed the cars to mainly young, inexperienced drivers who are more likely to be under the influence of drugs and booze than old farts.

Why don't we just confiscate your car, if you have one, than we don't have to worry about you murdering some innocent pedestrian or motorist while you're under the influence of drugs or booze!

That would certainly end that potential problem, wouldn't it?

I had a dear brother-in-law die when he was hit on his motorcycle by the SUV in 2015. Think we and his family should sue the Ford Motor Company for making the SUV that killed him?

[oberliner]

46. I support the way they handle it in Australia

Gun laws in Australia are enforced at the federal level primarily through customs controls[citation needed] and at State level in all other forms of control. Gun ownership is accessible to the civilian population, but owners must have 'genuine reasons' to obtain a Permit to Acquire from their State government. For rifles, genuine reasons focus on either hunting and/or sport/target shooting, and do not include personal protection. Handgun licences are also available, and applied for separately. In New South Wales, and similarly in other states, firearm ownership is widely prohibited for convicted offenders or those with a history of mental illness. Gun licences must be renewed either annually or every 5 years, and expire automatically if not renewed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Australia

Sorry to use Wikipedia but it's a good concise summary.

[cui bono]

23. So do you believe Ford should be sued when a drunk driver kills someone using a vehicle

that they manufactured? Should the alcoholic beverage company be sued as well?

Should a pharmaceutical company be sued for someone driving while taking their meds?

I'm not sure why people want different laws for gun manufacturers than they want for every other product sold in America. Perhpas you are just tugging at heart strings and playing people's emotions rather than making a logical argument. Or do you have a good reason why the laws should be different just for this one product?

.

[oberliner]

29. No

I am just saying that the NRA agrees with Bernie Sanders on that.

[cui bono]

39. And so do you.

So what's your point?

Seems you are just trying to smear Bernie by tying him to the NRA in an unfair manner. The NRA is right on that. You agree with that as well as you just stated.

If it wasn't to smear Bernie in that way then why bring it up?

If Hillary does not agree with both of them, and you, then she is wrong.

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[oberliner]

47. Hillary supports the Sandy Hook families who are suing the gun manufacturers

So on this issue, Hillary is on one side and Bernie and the NRA are on the other.

[cui bono]

48. And you just said you agree with Bernie, who is correct.

Hillary is wrong the issue unless she also wants to allow lawsuits against car manufacturers, alcohol beverage companies, etc...

It's a tragedy that those kids were murdered but using them as a political pawn is disgraceful. One of the parents posted on FB that she wanted Hillary to stop doing that. You should stop it as well. Especially when you agree with Bernie on this.

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[imagine2015]

43. You hit the nail on the head. And I think some of those folks have a secret ultimate agenda.

The total outlawing and confiscation of guns by civilians .... incrementally .... one step at a time.

But who among them admits that?

Dead silence when they are asked for their opinion on this.

They try to change the subject.

Or they run off.

Or they just refuse to answer the question.

[cui bono]

44. Well I am for strict gun control, unabashedly, but you can't make special rules just because

you are trying to smear a particular candidate and pretending that this is an outrageous stance.

The poster even stated further below that they agree with it. So what is the problem then? Why did they bring it up?

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[SwampG8r]

30. Half a quote is a complete lie

You left off the part about peaceful regime change from that quote to make it fit your narrative which in effect made that quote a lie.

[oberliner]

32. That's not true

People post quotes here all the time that are only part of what the person said.

In any case, here is the entire quote for people to evaluate:

"Look, everybody understands Gaddafi is a thug and murderer," Sanders said to Fox News. "We want to see him go, but I think in the midst of two wars (in Iraq and Afghanistan), I'm not quite sure we need a third war, and I hope the president tells us that our troops will be leaving there, that our military action in Libya will be ending very, very shortly."

Remember that he co-sponsored the bill in the Senate regarding Qaddafi. And our military action in Libya did end very shortly.

[SwampG8r]

33. If you use part of a quote to make a point

But then leave out the part of that quote which completely disqualifies your point then you have turned the quote into a lie

[oberliner]

34. The rest of the quote does not disqualify the point

It is posted in its entirety here.

Bernie Sanders co-sponsored a resolution calling for regime change in Libya, which included support for a no-fly zone.

Sanders said that he wanted Qaddafi out and he seemed to not oppose taking military action to do so, as long as it didn't take that long.

[jack_krass]

13. An urge to vomit is the physical respose Hillary inspires in me. nt.

[Codeine]

15. This place is off the fucking rails now.

What a shitshow.

[jack_krass]

16. WTF are we not allowed to be sickened by corporate owned

Politicians anymore? Is it too close to coronation day? Alert the damn post if you dont like it(notice how many hides I have)

[cui bono]

21. Yep.

The amount of Third Wayers who are blindly devoted to the corporate wing of the Dem Party is sickening. Especially now that they've shown they don't even care about democracy and fair elections. It's astounding really.

Third Way has got to go. We need a real Democratic Party again. Enough of the New Dem bullshit. All it is is moderate Republican policies a la Reagan. And we saw what Reaganomics did to this country. What makes Third Way Dems think the same policies will be any different when a Dem enacts them?

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[insta8er]

27. An inconvenient truth?

[EndElectoral]

17. Yeah. Fail to see her appeal. Op nails it. DU overall in every poll rejects her overwhelmingly.

I must hang with different people than her supporters, because every person, but one that I've encountered prefers Sanders.

It is what it is. Definitely a sad expose on the current Democratic Party's preferences to embrace the policies in the op of Clinton.

[silvershadow]

19. k&R

[cui bono]

20. I have listened to Garrett's show many, many times. She does a great job!

A lot of the morning shows on KPFK are very good and extremely informative.

I can believe that that is the only thing that made Hillary cry. I might cry if she wins this one too. It certainly will cement the oligarchy and bring our country and the world to an even worse state than it already is.

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[Logical]

22. She is a fake IMO, Nt

[Ed Suspicious]

26. "I cry when I think of her winning this one."

[Vinca]

31. There was just a segment on "Morning Joe" discussing a New York Time article

published AFTER the New York primary. Apparently, Hillary has never met a war-mongering general she didn't like.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html?login=email&rref=collection/sectioncollection/magazine&action=click&contentCollection=magazine%C2%AEion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=1

[pdsimdars]

35. It is strange but some of the best things on Bernie I have seen from Joe and Mika.

I never watch the show but I see clips on youtube and they have been outstanding. Kinda freaks me out.

[dinkytron]

41. down is up

[heaven05]

37. bill c

used drones a lot during his 8 years. Seems we(dems) drone em to death and they(repug) bomb them openly and without conscience or concern for the innocents. Both continue war and suffering. Will human beings ever find a better way to solve our difference between the haves and the have not?

[senz]

45. K&R -- the TRUTH about Hillary. Wish this intelligent woman had written it sooner.