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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:41 AM Apr 2016

Nicholas Kristof shilling for Hillary in NYT, says she's not crooked

when Gallup asks Americans to say the first word that comes to mind when they hear “Hillary Clinton,” the most common response can be summed up as “dishonest/liar/don’t trust her/poor character.” Another common category is “criminal/crooked/thief/belongs in jail.”

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My late friend and Times colleague William Safire in 1996 dubbed Clinton “a congenital liar.” But I think this narrative goes way too far.

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PolitiFact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking site, calculates that of the Clinton statements it has examined, 50 percent are either true or mostly true.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/opinion/sunday/is-hillary-clinton-dishonest.html
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Nicholas Kristof shilling for Hillary in NYT, says she's not crooked (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
Yeah I saw that on Twitter noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #1
K and his wife are strong on women oldandhappy Apr 2016 #2
you think HRC is good for women? dream on! she voted to use cluster bombs on civilians: amborin Apr 2016 #5
No! LOL oldandhappy Apr 2016 #7
So we can believe half of what she says. Milestone Apr 2016 #3
She's not crooked, just severely bent. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #4
She's not, her foundation has a high rating for resources being used to promote progressive ideals uponit7771 Apr 2016 #6

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
1. Yeah I saw that on Twitter
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

He also opined it was much ado about nothing on the FBI investigation. Curious he would bring that one up considering it really hasn't been covered much.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
5. you think HRC is good for women? dream on! she voted to use cluster bombs on civilians:
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton Voted to Continue Cluster Bombing Civilians





http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425303/-Hillary-Clinton-Voted-to-Continue-Cluster-Bombing-Civilians



The main point: Hillary Clinton voted to let our military continue to use cluster bombs in areas with concentrated civilian populations, despite the thousands of innocent children who have died or been handicapped due to picking up unexploded cluster bomblets.

This vote was cast in September 6, 2006 on an amendment to the Defense Appropriations act by Senator Dianne Feinstein.

Before I get into why this was such an important amendment and why a no vote was so terrible, I just want to post the vote totals with presidential candidates in bold.

30 Democrats voted YEA: Akaka (D-HI), Baucus (D-MT), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Cantwell (D-WA), Carper (D-DE), Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN), Dorgan (D-ND), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Feinstein (D-CA), Harkin (D-IA), Jeffords (I-VT), Johnson (D-SD), Kennedy (D-MA), Kerry (D-MA), Kohl (D-WI), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Menendez (D-NJ), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Obama (D-IL), Reed (D-RI), Reid (D-NV), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wyden (D-OR)

15 Democrats and every Republican voted NAY (R's not listed):
Bayh (D-IN), Biden (D-DE), Clinton (D-NY), Dodd (D-CT), Inouye (D-HI), Landrieu (D-LA), Lautenberg (D-NJ), Lieberman (D-CT), Lincoln (D-AR), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Rockefeller (D-WV), Salazar (D-CO), Schumer (D-NY)

Cluster munitions are large bombs, rockets, or artillery shells that contain up to hundreds of small submunitions or individual bomblets. They are intended for attacking enemy troop formations and armor, covering approximately a .6-mile radius. In other words, their swath is over one-half mile. Yet in practice they pose a real threat to the safety of civilians when used in populated areas because they leave hundreds of unexploded bombs over a very large area and they are often inaccurate. They end up in streets and cities where men and women go to work and do their shopping. They end up in groves of trees and fields where children play. They end up in homes where families live. And in some cases, up to 40 percent of cluster bombs fail to explode, posing a particular danger to civilians long after the conflict has ended.

This is particularly and sadly true of children because bomblets are no bigger than a D battery and in some cases resemble a tennis ball. Children outside with their friends and relatives come across these cluster bombs. They pick them up out of curiosity because they look like balls and they start playing with them and a terrible result follows.

Many countries are just full of these bomblets and many more innocent children will die as a result:

As a result, 84 countries are currently participating in the Oslo process to ban cluster munitions (of course, we're not part of this either):

Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, Burundi, Chad, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Guatemala, Guinea Bissau, Greece, Holy See, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Lao PDR, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malta, Mauritania, Mexico, Mozambique, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Senegal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, St Vincent and Grenadines, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Turkey, Uganda, UK, Uruguay, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zambia.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251413864

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
7. No! LOL
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:59 PM
Apr 2016

I will not vote for clinton and did not vote for her last time. I was commenting on the reporter. clinton is for fracking and war and money and manipulation and power and control --- nope.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
6. She's not, her foundation has a high rating for resources being used to promote progressive ideals
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

... and helping people.

Sanders foundation blames poor people for him losing

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