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Charles Koch: It's possible Clinton would be a better president than a Republican (Original Post) Time for change Apr 2016 OP
Charles Koch is up for some reverse psychology ... salinsky Apr 2016 #1
The Koch Brothers' whole agenda is to increase their wealth and power Time for change Apr 2016 #9
Endorsement from a Koch? She'll take it... dchill Apr 2016 #2
Yep, she will take care of him and his. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
He knows where his bread is buttered. Broward Apr 2016 #4
This will go by the way of blinders and fingers in the ears going Phlem Apr 2016 #5
That's not a compliment, it's a slam against the current R field Lil Missy Apr 2016 #6
well... runaway hero Apr 2016 #7
As much as many dislike the politics of the Koch brothers, he position on this is better Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #8
The Koch brothers have contributed more money to right wing causes than anyone else Time for change Apr 2016 #10
Yes, they have, does not mean what Charles Koch said was wrong this time. Hillary is the most Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #11
when the leading Republican candidate runs to her left... reddread Apr 2016 #12
Good for the republican candidate who runs to Hillary's left, shows the Republicans are getting Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #13
guns? Jet fighters. reddread Apr 2016 #14
Jet fighters like the F-35 program which Sanders continues to fund to the amount of $1 trillion Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #16
they sold them to the country that attacked us on 9-11-01? reddread Apr 2016 #17
What country attacked us on 9/11? How many F-35's have been delivered? Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #21
Qualified to keep the Koch's gravy train running, that's for sure... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #19
Alot of HRC voters are in the $50,000 or less income, in fact, 55% to 44% for HRC. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #25
A lot of GOP voters are in the $50,000 or less income, too TheDormouse Apr 2016 #28
Exactly Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #31
What Koch said was not wrong. Time for change Apr 2016 #39
As she will with many others. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #40
And funded the DLC. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #30
I hope he keeps it up Faux pas Apr 2016 #15
Koch knows who will be looking out for the 1%, doesn't he. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #18
I think he does Time for change Apr 2016 #20
An overture for Clinton to move right if the left rejects her? n/t Onlooker Apr 2016 #22
Koch knows who he can deal with Third Doctor Apr 2016 #23
+1 G_j Apr 2016 #26
Fucking A. What next? The Chamber of Commerce? Alec? JEB Apr 2016 #24
It wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement, more saying the Republican field sucks. moriah Apr 2016 #27
Oh, so the Koch brothers support right wing candidates routinely on the basis of reverse psychology? Time for change Apr 2016 #29
No, but they sure run ads in Dem campaigns that look.... moriah Apr 2016 #32
There are many in the Republican establishment who privately acknowledge that Trump is not fit Beacool Apr 2016 #33
People should be worried jpmonk91 Apr 2016 #34
Meet the New Boss... NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #35
She is a Republican. Just in clever disguise. People need to wake up. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #36
The Kock's see Hillary as someone who is more/most likely to further their goals me b zola Apr 2016 #37
ya think? mushroomhunter Apr 2016 #38

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
9. The Koch Brothers' whole agenda is to increase their wealth and power
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

at the expense of everyone else.

Hillary's campaign is funded largely by people who have similar agendas. Bernie gets no money from such people. His campaign is about the opposite.

Koch would have no reason to engage in reverse psychology. Why would he? To get Bernie the nomination? Bernie does better in polling against every Republican than Hillary does, and has much higher favorability ratings.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. As much as many dislike the politics of the Koch brothers, he position on this is better
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

than many others. The Koch brothers tends to lean libertarian and he looks at the candidates who are running and declares Hillary is the better qualified candidate. I have been saying this for a while. He may have listened to Sanders in his interview with NYDN and realized Sanders failed in this interview on answering questions on Sanders core issue.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. Yes, they have, does not mean what Charles Koch said was wrong this time. Hillary is the most
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

qualified than any of the candidates running.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
12. when the leading Republican candidate runs to her left...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

she must look better than ever to her base.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Good for the republican candidate who runs to Hillary's left, shows the Republicans are getting
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

right on the positions. Like Sanders votes with the right on gun issues.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Jet fighters like the F-35 program which Sanders continues to fund to the amount of $1 trillion
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

and they have not produced a functioning product? Yes, can you tell me why. Also those other weapons you are talking, where are they manufactured? Sanders loves drones, says he will use them and take military action, yes those facts.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
19. Qualified to keep the Koch's gravy train running, that's for sure...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

And HRC supporters wonder why some of us in the progressive wing of the party won't support HRC if she is the nominee....

Nothing personal, I just see the world from a different angle than the HRC peeps. Some are clearly good folks, but some are more concerned about their own wealth - and keeping the taxman away - than they are about what's best for America. The "I've got mine" wing of the Democrat party certainly would not support Bernie if he were the nominee.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
25. Alot of HRC voters are in the $50,000 or less income, in fact, 55% to 44% for HRC.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

The people with the wealth is not the problem, Sanders is in the top 6%, he is just as concerned with his own wealth, keeping the tax man away and doesn't show a lot of effort towards charity. On the other hand, Hillary has donated lots of money to the Clinton Foundation which in turn delivers 89% of their intake to programs for the less fortunate. Seems like "I've got mine" includes Sanders.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
23. Koch knows who he can deal with
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

and get the best for his bucks. Since the GOP candidates are all loons and will likely lose he's being practical.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
27. It wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement, more saying the Republican field sucks.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

Then again, the Koch brothers are masters of reverse psychology. "Maybe if I say she could be a better president than Shrub, people who hate me enough will hate Hillary, too."

moriah

(8,311 posts)
32. No, but they sure run ads in Dem campaigns that look....
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

... like ads run by Dems.

They're really good at ratcfucking, if that's perhaps a better way to describe it.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
33. There are many in the Republican establishment who privately acknowledge that Trump is not fit
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

to be president. Some have even admitted to it in public, like Christine Todd Whitman. She has publicly stated that if Trump is her party's nominee she would vote for Hillary. Whether you like her or not, there's no doubt that she can handle the job. Trump, on the other hand, is a narcissistic clown who would be a disaster as president.

jpmonk91

(290 posts)
34. People should be worried
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

If the Koch brothers like one of our candidates that only means things are going further to the right. That means the people lose. a party of Reaganomics and a party of crazy Right wing fanatics is not a choice.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
37. The Kock's see Hillary as someone who is more/most likely to further their goals
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

You can't spin the ugly truth off of that.

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