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think

(11,641 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:04 AM Apr 2016

Bernie supports single payer. Hillary took $225K from an insurance group that's attacking single

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

payer. She says single payer isn't going to happen.

Over 20 million Americans lack health care coverage. Thousands die every year do this lack of coverage. In 2009 it was estimated that over 45,000 Americans were dying every year due to lack of health care.

That was before the ACA so the numbers probably have improved. Still with over 20 million Americans not covered and millions more not being able to afford the deductibles of the insurance they have thousands of Americans are dying due to it.

We are not number one in health care in a many areas. In fact Time magazine admitted in 2014:

The U.S. ranks worst among 11 wealthy nations in terms of “efficiency, equity and outcomes" despite having the world's most expensive health care system

http://time.com/2888403/u-s-health-care-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world/


The majority of the developed world already provides universal health care for it's citizens. Canada, our next door neighbor has has single payer health care for decades. The United State is the only major country that doesn't provide universal health care:

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/sep/01/dan-gecker/dan-gecker-says-us-only-wealth-nation-without-univ/



Now the insurance association that paid Hillary $225K to speak is fighting Colorado's effort to bring single payer to it's citizens.


Health Care Industry Moves Swiftly to Stop Colorado’s “Single Payer” Ballot Measure

Lee Fang
Apr. 22 2016, 12:37 p.m.


THE CAMPAIGN IN Colorado to create the nation’s first state-based “single payer” health insurance system, providing universal coverage and replacing insurance premiums with higher taxes, has barely begun.

But business interests in Colorado are not taking anything for granted, and many of the largest lobbying groups around the country and in the state are raising funds to defeat Amendment 69, the single-payer ballot question going before voters this November.

The Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers, a national trade group, is mobilizing its member companies to defeat single payer in Colorado. “The council urges Coloradans to protect employer-provided insurance and oppose Proposition 69,” the CIAB warns. The group dispatched Steptoe & Johnson, a lobbying firm it retains, to analyze the bill.

Read more:
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/colorad-single-payer/



I'll stick with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the modern world in working to get health care as a right for all Americans.
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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
2. A few of the conservadems are still insisting that heritage care is "the first step toward single
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

payer". Most have stopped that ridiculous lie and admit that they don't want Americans to have healthcare, and are OK with it being unaffordable and in the hands of sociopathic profiteers. It is amazing what bullshit you can get people to swallow if the right person is feeding it to them.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
3. It was very surprising to see posts denigrating single payer here. I really did not expect to see
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

that happen.

It was bad enough when the meme was that the Republicans wouldn't let it happen. Now we have to contend with some actually supporting the GOP talking points against single payer.

The Hillary wing of the corporate party to me represent the future of where the GOP is headed. The Sanders and Warren wing represent where the Democratic party should be...

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. That's why the party is doomed as a national factor until fundamental changes are made
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

People who want the platform that Clinton is running on can just vote republican.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
5. Rupert Murdoch gave her $2700 at a London fund raiser. Charles Koch thinks shes better than the GOP
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

candidates. Robert Kagan, a top neocon, prefers Hillary over Trump or Cruz.

The hand writing is on the wall...

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