Charles Koch endorses HRC. Surprised? I'm not.

[elehhhhna]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555947/Multi-billionaire-GOP-kingmaker-says-s-possible-Hillary-Clinton-better-president-Republican-field.html

[IamMab]

1. Except that's not what an endorsement looks like.

Opinion =/= endorsement

[elehhhhna]

3. I like the part where he says she will govern differently from the rhetoric she uses in the campaign

[RATM435]

5. Hillary will go center right like a homing pigeon.

[musicblind]

22. He didn't say that. n/t

[puffy socks]

23. I love the part where the Koch brothers have ever been honest,

and not trying to divide the Dems to keep Republicans in office

[apcalc]

28. Except he didn't say that

[berniepdx420]

27. you all can try to deflect his words.. but that should tell you who you are voting for a DINO

[Kelvin Mace]

32. Absolutely true

And BTW:

Go Team Dresden!!!

[emulatorloo]

2. If one takes anything from Koch as honest, one is naive.

[procon]

4. Why are you making this blatantly deceptive and misleading proclamation?

Look, you made this up, yeah? So what's your payoff? The article you cite neither makes nor implies any such claim. You must have known that story has been circulating for several days, and most readers are at least passing familiar with the context, so why did you think that you could get away with a deliberate falsehood?

This is cheap bait. More fan fiction tossed out as filler to avoid the empty space that has replaced any discussion whatsoever extolling Sanders policies, promoting his ideas or up selling his diminishing brand.

[elehhhhna]

8. Why so scared?

[procon]

11. A frightening concept, The Big Lie; why did you do it? nt

[snowy owl]

34. Admission that Clinton policy more Koch than Trump or Cruz ...

Not everyone is part of some great conspiracy.

[procon]

36. Can we unpack your statement?

Charles Koch, a conservative multi-billionaire who has a long history of manipulating the media -- keywords there -- to exploit public opinion in favor of Republicans, suddenly suggests Hillary Clinton, the leading Democrat, will make a better president than any of GOP candidate. He makes this seemingly startling revelation at the same time as the pundits are speculating on how Sanders will end his campaign and endorse Hillary, convincing his followers to do the same.

Oh, you're right, its certainly not a "great conspiracy", just the standard reverse psychology intended to fool Bernie's youthful and the unsuspecting voters into trusting their kindly old Uncle Charles. While Koch may have said he could not back Trump or Cruz, but he also went on to say that as president, Hillary's "actions would be quite different than her rhetoric". Then he admitted that he could back either GOP candidate if "they backtracked on some of their controversial policies."

See how that all ties together so neatly?

Look, Bernie fans are delighted to believe any anti-Hillary propaganda, even the swill Republicans toss at them. Wily old Charles Koch hopes to tip the scales, and predictably, you lot swallowed the whole shebang without so much as pause and never even asked WHY a Republican would feed into your own anti-Hillary rhetoric.

[Lil Missy]

6. make shit up much?

there's no endorsement in that article.

[Sheepshank]

7. No endorsement there, but remember, it was Bernie trying to woo Republicans

How ironic that the person who does not want or seek their endorsement gets the cross over votes?

We don't need Koch or any other Republican to win, Bernie did...and he couldn't even gather that group.

[snowy owl]

35. Wrong. People in closed primaries vote Repub but may vote Bernie (or HRC) in GE.

Bernie and HRC woo anybody that will listen. Why make it partisan? Obviously, all politicians do that. In Bernie's case, he's left the establishment and is attracting a different kind of voter from both parties. Sometimes loyalty to one candidate blinds you to the bigger picture.

[Sheepshank]

37. Are you intimating Bernie wasn't making a special push for Republican votes?

And furthermore are you seriously trying to imply every state Primary was a cloSed Primary?

Rarely do we ever get a double whammy like that.

[Squinch]

9. There is no law that requires that everything Sanders supporters say has to be a lie... Just thought

thought you guys might need a reminder of that.

[mmonk]

10. When you serve the right people, you get rewarded.

[metamorphosis]

12. HRC isn't showing much respect to voters - everything she says is vague and leaves an "out" for her.

Hillary's logo contains an arrow, pointing to the right, and in a way, that tells the whole story.

This not the Hillary we once knew, who promoted national health care plan, who blasted the "massive right wing conspiracy" that impeached her husband. It's not the liberal/progressive former first lady we knew.

This Hillary has run a dirty campaign, has trashed Sanders, and has gone out of her way alienate sanders' supporters.

She speaks of continuing Obama policies, yet Obama has resisted armed conflict, while HRC has gone out of her way to spark wars and covert operations overseas. she is a neoconservative now, which means that her goal will be to make the US global "empire" the strongest international military state in world history. with ever-increasing political-military dominance, cheap labor will become ever more abundant, and HRD will rely on american need/or greed to capitalize on it.

Not ony is she endorsed by a leading right-wing oligarch, but she may be guilty of perjury or obstruction of justice in the email case, or the Libyan invasion investigation.

regardless of Koch, there is a movement among republicans to begin impeachment proceedings against HRD on day 1 of her administration if she wins. they have a lot more material to impeach clinton with, and the senate may not be able to prevent her removal from office.

...thus, bernie for vp1

[QC]

13. He has funded Clintons before.

Corporate control of both parties benefits people like the Kochs.

[Dem2]

14. So now you're foisting the manipulations of Republicans onto us?

Is this for real? Pretty disgusting if you ask me - why are you doing this?

[elehhhhna]

15. So y'all have no comment on the content of his remarks. Got it. Again, no surprises here.

[Dem2]

20. I don't know what to tell you I do not intend to promote right wing propaganda

I don't know what you're trying to prove by bringing right-wing talking points here, but that's a logical fallacy that I have to respond to your right wing talking points. You posted this crap, you defend it. Asking me to defend it is ludicrous.

[LiberalFighter]

16. Why are you stooping to false claims?

[elehhhhna]

18. I am simply casting asparagus

Lol

[LiberalFighter]

24. Only crazy Republicans are suppose to do that.

[SFnomad]

21. The lies and deceptions of the BS cheerleaders ... their desperation is growing n/t

[EndElectoral]

25. Not really surprising.

[BillZBubb]

26. No surprise at all. The Kock's bankrolled the DLC to get people like Hillary elected.

They've moved the party far enough to the right that they are now happy with the prospective Democratic nominee. That should tell any real liberal something very significant.

[NewImproved Deal]

29. Nope. No surprise. "Meet the New Boss..."

[link:?1|

[SharonClark]

30. Charles Koch endorses Sanders. Surprised? I'm not.

[snowy owl]

33. Link, please.

[immoderate]

31. Whom do establishment Republicans prefer? Trump? Cruz? I think not.

If you are Republican, Hillary is a reasonable selection.

--imm