2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumActual NYT headline: Hillary Clinton Warns Voters About Donald Trump’s Evolving Image
States that voters should judge him by his prior comments and actions, rather than what he's saying now to win votes.
CENTRAL FALLS, R.I. If Donald J. Trump starts to soften his image, Hillary Clinton has a warning for voters.
Dont believe it.
Trump, she said at a rally here on Saturday, keeps saying things like, Well, you know, uh, I didnt really mean it. It was all part of my reality TV show.
Well, you know what? she added. If we buy that, shame on us. Because hes already showed us what he believes and hes already said what he wants to do, and he wants to go after every one of the rights we have....
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/23/hillary-clinton-warns-voters-about-donald-trumps-evolving-image/
Wow. Just, wow. Pot, kettle and all that. Don't believe it, and, "shame on us", indeed.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Bernie's got a town hall on MSNBC on Monday night. Imagine the audience laughter if he referred to this.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I read today that Annie Oakley is packing heat again.
astrophuss42
(290 posts)Make it easier to understand POV of people who don't see much of a difference between the two. Who is allowed to evolve in this race?
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Joob
(1,065 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Hatchling
(2,323 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Because they've already shown us what they believe and they've already said what they want to do.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Can't wait!
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uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... being wrong and honest about being wrong is way better than
progressing
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Or do you still think what he did isn't as bad as a black man criticizing Obama with a term you dislike?
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uponit7771
(90,347 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)actually find out who Kissinger is. You really shouldn't post opinions about someone you know nothing about. It makes you look really stupid. But you are brave for posting such tripe, even if you are losing your nak... er... knack for words.
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uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... a shit what another shit head did 1234p01n years ago
cui bono
(19,926 posts)If that isn't a strawman then it most certainly is deflection of the most egregious kind. Do you even remember what the OP headline is? Here's a refresher for you:
Actual NYT headline: Hillary Clinton Warns Voters About Donald Trumps Evolving Image
Funny, I don't see Sanders in that headline at all. Oh, my, guess what? He's not mentioned in the body of that OP either. I wonder why and how his name got brought up? Oh yeah, deflection from the hypocrisy of your own chosen candidate.
And actually, you thinking Cornell West is worse than Kissinger is extremely relevant. It shows you don't know what you are talking about and that there's not much point discussing things with you since you don't have the facts to have a good political barometer for comparing and contrasting various politicians.
So go learn who Kissinger is. Your idol respects him and I think might have even said something about him being a mentor, though that might not be correct. But she pals around with him and considers him a friend. It's something that's important to know about someone.
It's also important to know that mass murder of innocent people is quite a lot worse than calling a public figure a name in your criticism of their policies. If you honestly don't think that is true there's no point in anyone discussing anything with you as you have shown that you have no moral compass what so ever and will defend anything at all if you think it's a defense of Hillary.
And if you are going to make statements about people you have admitted knowing pretty much nothing about then again, there's no point taking anything you say seriously and you have shown yourself to be willing to post about things of which you admit to being ignorant.
But I bet your socks are comfy and that's really all that matters, isn't it?
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Broward
(1,976 posts)or at least pretend to.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)She told me she doesn't know much about Kissinger but that Cornell West criticizing Obama is worse than what Kissinger did.
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Broward
(1,976 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)AKA, her "white people, non-inner city" position on gun control.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... immunity years after Sanders was helped by the NRA.
Americans aren't against guns, just the immoral ties Sanders has to the industry
cui bono
(19,926 posts)you think that Cornell West criticizing Obama is worse than Kissinger's mass murder of innocent lives.
And Sanders has no such immoral ties to any industry. You know very well he has a D- from the NRA. We all know who you are. Why you get a pass is beyond me because you just bring this site down to tabloid levels.
Not that it matters much any more. It already has nowhere near the level of intelligent posts and people it had when BushCo was in office. After that the cheerleading squads arrived and most insightful analysis and critical thought was met by immature retorts and smileys.
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Autumn
(45,106 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/23/hillary-clintons-pennsylvania-visit-is-another-welcome-home/
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Whats she up to now? 5.0, 10.1, 20.9?
Broward
(1,976 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)After all, he's the only candidate who doesn't have to constantly "evolve" or retract his statements.
pampango
(24,692 posts)he pretends to be? He's an actor playing a role and playing his supporters for fools.
Bernie and Hillary had both better be prepared to emphasize Trump's 'evolution' during the GE.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Shame on whomever fell for either schtick.
pampango
(24,692 posts)It does bother me that some liberals seem to believe that the rhetoric that Trump spews is some kind of 'proof' that he is a real populist - or more Democratic or more liberal than our candidates - while discounting any rhetoric coming from our own candidates as insincere 'mere rhetoric'.
Political rhetoric is just that and always has been.
Exactly!
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Hillary is Tofu.
She takes on any flavor around her.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)smiley
(1,432 posts)She is amazing.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)if they manage to rig enough primaries and she gets the nom, we will see a 180 deg turn back to her right wing roots of epic whiplash proportions.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She has become such a prodigious liar that she can't even tell how ridiculous she sounds
Autumn
(45,106 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Not supporting Trump but Hillary can't complain about evolving
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Her has been a consistent liar throughout her career. The fact that her lies have to change to match the circumstances does not change her true nature, an unrepentant cheat.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...criticism.
Talk about setting yourself up for a takedown.