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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:14 AM Apr 2016

When Madeline Albright, surrogate for Hillary said Women who don't support other women will burn

in Hell or Gloria Steinem said young girls were only voting for Bernie to meet guys - we were told that Hillary cannot be responsible for what other people say.

Or when Tom Watson that has ties to a Hillary superpac compares Bernie supporters to Nazis, that's no problem. Hillary didn't say it nor should she apologize.

Or when Bill Clinton said Bernie supporters were sexist or when he just said Bernie's young voters are responsible for all the problems in DC - that was okay, because Hillary was not the one saying it... And she cannot control what other people say?

But when the doctor that had input in the formation of the ACA used the word whore at a rally for Bernie; or a surrogate for Bernie brings up Monica - it is then Bernie's fault? Shame on Bernie!

Which is it people? Are Hillary and Bernie responsible for the words of others? Or not?

You cannot have it both ways.

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When Madeline Albright, surrogate for Hillary said Women who don't support other women will burn (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
Apparently they believe they can TDale313 Apr 2016 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #2
Thanks - I have a low tolerance for hypocrisy. jillan Apr 2016 #3
So do I. 840high Apr 2016 #9
And then she apologized in a NYTimes editorial. YouDig Apr 2016 #4
NO WAY...Albright was a DIPLOMAT..Rosario is an activatist angstlessk Apr 2016 #7
Dawson is suppose to apologize for what exactly? beedle Apr 2016 #21
Bernie is responsible for the words of others. Hillary is not responsible for the words of others. Autumn Apr 2016 #5
She's not even responsible for her own words when she changes positions. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #14
Black is white, up is down, wars are peace . . . the meme they keep meming here. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #17
One of them posting he was actually a conservative Christian. Autumn Apr 2016 #23
Of course they are hypocrites. TM99 Apr 2016 #6
K&R CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #8
They are all hypocrites. vintx Apr 2016 #10
They fear honest debate so they try to shame opponents into silence. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #11
+1 Scuba Apr 2016 #12
Just think of them as 13 year olds... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #13
A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #15
Madeline Albright is Jewish, yet Jews don't believe in a hell. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #16
The wheel of outrage spins round and round. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #18
I have never in my life seen a democratic candidate use a sufrommich Apr 2016 #19
I have never in my life seen a democratic candidate insult democrat voters before. jillan Apr 2016 #20
I have never seen so many Democrats supporting a candidate with so many Republican traits Seeinghope Apr 2016 #22
You mean like birthers in the 2008 primary? jeff47 Apr 2016 #24
You forget birtherism originated from Blumenthal riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #25

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. Apparently they believe they can
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

Just like they think they can give Hillary credit for good things from Bill Clinton's presidency but it's unfair and sexist to bring up policies she supported at that time that caused a great deal of harm.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
5. Bernie is responsible for the words of others. Hillary is not responsible for the words of others.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:29 AM
Apr 2016

Yep, it happens every damn new outrage they drum up.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
17. Black is white, up is down, wars are peace . . . the meme they keep meming here.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

They even tried to claim that Killer Mike was not a rapper, but oh, how they loves them some Prince.

They're phonier than hell.


 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. Of course they are hypocrites.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

This is old news around these parts.

It started with 'count the color people' and has never quit.

The Third Way is just another way of saying, I want my cake, and fuck you peons, I am eating it too!

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
10. They are all hypocrites.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:07 AM
Apr 2016

They just want to wave the poutrage of the day around so people will stop talking about their candidate's MANY, MANY flaws.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. They fear honest debate so they try to shame opponents into silence.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:59 AM
Apr 2016

Demands for silent obedience to be loudly disobeyed.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
16. Madeline Albright is Jewish, yet Jews don't believe in a hell.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

So, what kind of dogma does she believe in?




sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. I have never in my life seen a democratic candidate use a
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:37 PM
Apr 2016

republican generated scandal against another democratic candidate. It's beyond the pale and unforgivable as far as I'm concerned.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. I have never in my life seen a democratic candidate insult democrat voters before.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016

It's beyond unforgivable.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
22. I have never seen so many Democrats supporting a candidate with so many Republican traits
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

Obvious law breaking, actions of conflicts of interest, so obviously tied to Wall Street and the upper 1%. Never seen such a hawk in Democratic clothes...vote for IRW, depose heads of state and support the deposing of heads of state in Libya, Syria and Honduras. Her record while Secretary of State shows dealing and having more contracts for weapons and military equipment, a 143 % increase over George W Bush. 151 Billion in donations that got these contracts from 16 countries went to the Clinton Foundation.

Clinton is under investigation because of her bad handling of the the e-mails while she was Secretary of State
.

The federal records, regulatory filings and correspondence showed that almost all the 82 corporations, trade associations and other groups that paid for or sponsored Clinton's speeches have actively sought to sway the government — lobbying, bidding for contracts, commenting on federal policy and in some cases contacting State Department officials or Clinton herself during her tenure as secretary of state...Clinton's 94 paid appearances over two years on the speech circuit leave her open to scrutiny over decisions she would make in the White House or influence that may affect the interests of her speech sponsors.


She is for the money and her own wealth and power. That is more Republican than Democrat. It is truly awful that so many people support her because she is a woman, a Clinton and/or just a good liar with enough power to control which way this election is being run and control on the outcome....along with the DNC and the powers that be that know that Hillary Clinton will play "the game".


jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. You mean like birthers in the 2008 primary?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016

Oh wait...that was started by a Democrat, then taken over by Republicans.

(The birther crap started with Sid Blumenthal. It was then jumped upon by the Republicans. This is why Clinton was forbidden to bring Blumenthal on to her staff at State....so she brought him on unofficially.)

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. You forget birtherism originated from Blumenthal
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

And Hillary used it.

Hell, you even forget Hillary using the Jeremiah Wright issue.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/us/politics/26wright.html?referer=

And this is off the top of my head...

You're a Hillary supporter. Of course you have selective memory.

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