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Bernie's surrogates are now bringing up Monica Lewinsky (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
No just a small tast of what will come this fall if we go with another Clinton awake Apr 2016 #1
Yep, get used to it if Hill's the nominee... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #23
same old same old Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #48
old news Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #46
So, you're no better than the cretins on the right? salinsky Apr 2016 #77
Why are Hillary supporters unwilling to look at what will be coming at her? awake Apr 2016 #85
All of that and more has been thrown at Hillary ... salinsky Apr 2016 #87
Wrong this has not been up on the main stream media awake Apr 2016 #89
Funny when we bring up things the would come up this fall regarding Bernie treestar Apr 2016 #82
Amen Iliyah Apr 2016 #2
She isn't using Monica Lewinsky as an attack against Clinton wrt sexual affairs, afaic. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #3
Are you kidding? You can't really believe that. YouDig Apr 2016 #7
Did she specifically talk about the affairs, or reference her other than to talk about bullying? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #16
Of all the anti-bullying advocates, they pick Monica Lewinsky? Really? YouDig Apr 2016 #22
Whose a more prominent anti-bullying advocate? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #25
Tons of people. How about Lady Gaga. Lewinsky is famous for one thing, YouDig Apr 2016 #26
Lady Gaga became famous because she was abused and bullied? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #27
She became famous for singing. And since then has been an advocate for YouDig Apr 2016 #32
You've missed her Ted talk I presume riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #34
Yes I missed it. Do you know how many YouTube views Lady Gaga has? YouDig Apr 2016 #35
Oh, I see you watched her 22 minute speech in less than 1 minute riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #37
I didn't watch it. Not interested. I know why they're bringing her name up. YouDig Apr 2016 #40
Ah, a low information Hillary voter, just joined April 2016 riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #41
I'm informed about issues that matter, and Monica Lewinsky isn't one of them. YouDig Apr 2016 #42
Lol, go with that...very convincing. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #43
The Clinton campaign could easily bring up Sanders Nicaragua/Sandinista/Cuba/Castro/Moscow ties . . brush Apr 2016 #55
I think you overestimate the Cuba thing riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #57
It's not a secret that he praised communist regimes in Nicaragua and Cuba brush Apr 2016 #59
You grossly overestimate the socialism bogeyman in this era riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #62
The so-called red scaremongering doesn't really matter now as Sanders won't be the nominee brush Apr 2016 #71
Exactly, and who are they to talk about bullying, what with the Bernie Bros and the harrassing . . . brush Apr 2016 #54
She is a beautiful and smart woman. 840high Apr 2016 #50
lol she is not the voice on bullying treestar Apr 2016 #81
BOOGIE WOOGIE BOO! Monica! morningfog Apr 2016 #31
+1 treestar Apr 2016 #80
that army called Jane Sanders "slutty and nutty" an echo of Brock's attack on Anita Hill azurnoir Apr 2016 #73
Yeah, we know the republicans won't touch that with a 10 foot pole. nt Autumn Apr 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author hopemountain Apr 2016 #13
I was going to go very similar but we need to be cautious. Autumn Apr 2016 #14
thank you, autumn. hopemountain Apr 2016 #17
Thank you. We need to watch what we say. Autumn Apr 2016 #18
Hillary surrogates bring up an essay Bernie Sanders wrote in Nineteen seventy-fucking-two. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #5
The one that started "It was a dark and stormy night . . ."? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #24
Well Hillary's surrogates are often vile, race baiting, sex baiting hypocrites. morningfog Apr 2016 #29
Just FYI, you were alerted on Scootaloo Apr 2016 #63
Thanks! morningfog Apr 2016 #64
Some weirdo has an animated gif in their sig line. frylock Apr 2016 #53
Why not? If this thread is to be discussed about treestar Apr 2016 #83
I just wonder why the stigma that applies to Monica Downwinder Apr 2016 #6
i agree. everyone else has gone DesertFlower Apr 2016 #8
While it's been a buzzword (used accurately and inaccurately in the campaign) mythology Apr 2016 #10
This seems to be a common opinion of both men and women. Downwinder Apr 2016 #20
Good point. 840high Apr 2016 #51
You call Hillary surrogates people that post to this board MattP Apr 2016 #9
I hope Trump doesn't bring her up. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #11
Of course the RNC remember it Spacedog1973 Apr 2016 #69
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #70
Monica Lewinsky has inserted herself into the campaign riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12
the trauma from being bullied hopemountain Apr 2016 #15
Monica Lewinsky is the least of her problems. It's the other women and how Hillary acted towards Skwmom Apr 2016 #19
As disgusting and low as it it ... I'm actually kinda glad to see it. It's a good sign ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #21
Yup. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #49
Yet said nothing of Bill's infidelity or his relationship to Monica. morningfog Apr 2016 #28
Nope. A sign of how despicable a candidate we're jack_krass Apr 2016 #30
Good for Monica? That some actress is yet again bringing her name up as a means to attack Hillary? Lucinda Apr 2016 #36
Yes, good for Monica, for her anti-bullying work. jack_krass Apr 2016 #44
If just bringing up a name is an attack on Hillary farleftlib Apr 2016 #86
I found out today that Hillary was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll postatomic Apr 2016 #33
This op is a lie, like usual. Regular old flame baiter. morningfog Apr 2016 #38
Or a seriously off the rails surrogate. Her vitriol has been surprising. Lucinda Apr 2016 #39
It sucks doesn't it? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #45
Some of his supporters are as classy as Trump's. Beacool Apr 2016 #47
I wouldn't call Clintons classy. 840high Apr 2016 #52
Non sequitur..... Beacool Apr 2016 #65
Do we need to start numbering the threads on a single issue? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #56
Get used to it AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #58
Little birdie??? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #60
Are bernie fans deluded Spacedog1973 Apr 2016 #61
Leave your safety bubble - go 840high Apr 2016 #66
I dont think so Spacedog1973 Apr 2016 #67
Bill Clinton should have anticipated this bvf Apr 2016 #68
I like how you took it from one to multitudes. bluedigger Apr 2016 #72
Worry if the rest of them come out of the woodwork Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #74
They're running out of outrages. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #75
... berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #76
Do you and your preferred candidate not support ML's strong stance against bullying? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #78
who needs far right wing fanatics when we have them on the far left n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #79
Looks like it was brought up here by a Hillshill trying to blame it on Bernie. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #84
That cigar will smoke itself Segami Apr 2016 #88
"supporter" does not equal "surrogate". MH1 Apr 2016 #90
Rosario Dawson is considered a Sanders' campaig surrogate obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #92
These attacks are really sleazy Gothmog Apr 2016 #91

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
23. Yep, get used to it if Hill's the nominee...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:26 PM
Apr 2016

Lewinsky affair will be one of the less damaging things the GOP will hammer the Clinton campaign with

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
48. same old same old
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

everyone knows the GOP lies and lies about the Clintons and are completely deranged...doubt it will matter.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
46. old news
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

everyone knows about Monica. The Bernie bots are now holding Corsi swift boater in high regard...I long for the day when this primary is called and this crap is over...maybe next week...Bernie is going to lose big.

awake

(3,226 posts)
85. Why are Hillary supporters unwilling to look at what will be coming at her?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

If she gets the nomination Hillary will be hit with a lot more damaging stuff than this. Bernie has been one of the kindest candidates to run against. The GOP will use every thing including the FBI investigation, money laundering though a family foundation, Bill's past affaires they will blame the problems in the Middle East on her blowing it as a SOS ........she has gotten a free pass so far the biggest thing that Bernie has hit her with is her Wallstreet speeches and you can bet Trumps friends have copies that will be released.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
87. All of that and more has been thrown at Hillary ...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

... and she's still standing.

Meanwhile, the candidate you're supporting is unvetted.

The question you should be asking yourself is, why are you doing the freeper's dirty work?

awake

(3,226 posts)
89. Wrong this has not been up on the main stream media
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

But you can bet you sweet ass that come this fall if Hillary is our candidate it will be all over the place. It is just amazing how people refuse to look at the real problems Hillary possess for our party. I am not doing "freeper's dirty work" I and many on this site are saying before it is too late look at the down side if we go with another Clinton. Why do you think the media has given her a free ride till now, do you really believe that they support her?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
82. Funny when we bring up things the would come up this fall regarding Bernie
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

it gets hidden. How come we cannot discuss his liabilities?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
3. She isn't using Monica Lewinsky as an attack against Clinton wrt sexual affairs, afaic.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

She appears to be talking about Brock's troll army set out to bully Sanders supporters into submission. Monica Lewinsky has found a new focus in life, discussing bullying, so it is natural to source her. I see no problem, as long as they stick to the issues and this campaign, not dreck from the 1990s that nobody wants to talk about anymore.

I wonder if there are any on DU?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
16. Did she specifically talk about the affairs, or reference her other than to talk about bullying?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

If not, then I really do believe that.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. Whose a more prominent anti-bullying advocate?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

Who else has devoted their entire career to this?

Who else has been a political football for a decade or more?

I'll wait.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
26. Tons of people. How about Lady Gaga. Lewinsky is famous for one thing,
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

and the people bringing it up in this campaign know that. It's not a coincidence.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
27. Lady Gaga became famous because she was abused and bullied?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:44 PM
Apr 2016

Or she became famous and then spoke out about her abuse and bullying?

There is a difference.

Its shameful to denigrate Monica Lewinsky for finally finding her voice. Even as its at an inconvenient time for this campaign, she deserves praise, not more shaming.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
32. She became famous for singing. And since then has been an advocate for
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:49 PM
Apr 2016

anti-bullying, among other things. And she's known for it, much more than Monica Lewinsky. And she's not the only one. If you had to pick one recognizable anti-bullying advocate, Monica Lewinsky would be way down the list.

It's great that Monica Lewinsky has found her voice, but everyone knows why the Bernie campaign is floating her name, and it's not because of her anti-bullying advocacy. And by the way, she didn't get famous for being bullied, it was for something else.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
34. You've missed her Ted talk I presume
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

Almost 5 million views and she's spearheaded a mass movement on bullying.



Monica Lewinsky has become the voice for bullying. Get out of the Clinton bubble for a moment. ..

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
35. Yes I missed it. Do you know how many YouTube views Lady Gaga has?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

If you really think that Bernie's people are tossing out Lewinsky's name because of anti-bullying, you are kidding yourself.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
37. Oh, I see you watched her 22 minute speech in less than 1 minute
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016


And the day you show me a 20+ minute Lady Gaga speech devoted entirely to the subject of bullying that's garnered 5 million views, then I'll concede Lady Gaga as the greater public authority on this topic...

Please note Monica Lewinsky actually got her masters in psychology and social media bullying from the London School of Economics.

This is her life's work now.


YouDig

(2,280 posts)
40. I didn't watch it. Not interested. I know why they're bringing her name up.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

So does everyone else. It's not pretty.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
41. Ah, a low information Hillary voter, just joined April 2016
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

Hope Brock is paying you by the word instead of content.



Please don't educate yourself. It's more fun this way...

brush

(53,787 posts)
55. The Clinton campaign could easily bring up Sanders Nicaragua/Sandinista/Cuba/Castro/Moscow ties . .
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:03 AM
Apr 2016

but they're classier than that. Referencing Lewinsky, the one who stored the spermed-stained blue dress for ulterior motives, is low class, and pretending that it's about her anti-bullying work is so phony.

Sanders' surrogates seem to be doing more harm than good.

brush

(53,787 posts)
59. It's not a secret that he praised communist regimes in Nicaragua and Cuba
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary has never even hinted at his socialist past so for this surrogate to bring up Lewinsky . . . that's just scraping the bottom of the no-class barrel.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
62. You grossly overestimate the socialism bogeyman in this era
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

Red scaremongering isn't a potent weapon anymore.

Unless you're like 80 years old like my Trump voting mom...

brush

(53,787 posts)
71. The so-called red scaremongering doesn't really matter now as Sanders won't be the nominee
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:30 AM - Edit history (1)

But for you own information you should research it as I'm not overestimating it at all.

It would have been a huge weapon for the repugs as you seem to think only millennials who vote the least of all age groups, and know the least about the cold war era are the only ones who would be influenced by revelations of Sanders' past extreme, near-communist socialism — you know, "means of production should be owned by the people" pronouncements — that kind of socialism, not the democratic socialist posture he has now assumed.

brush

(53,787 posts)
54. Exactly, and who are they to talk about bullying, what with the Bernie Bros and the harrassing . . .
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

of super delegates by phone and how they've taken over DU and it's jury system.

They are the bullies.

Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
29. Well Hillary's surrogates are often vile, race baiting, sex baiting hypocrites.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

I expect nothing nearing decency or honesty from them.

 

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(25,699 posts)
63. Just FYI, you were alerted on
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
83. Why not? If this thread is to be discussed about
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

problems in the general election, why is it OK to discuss Hillary's but a problem to discuss Bernie's?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. While it's been a buzzword (used accurately and inaccurately in the campaign)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

sexism. We don't hold that women can enjoy sex unless they are a "slut". Men are considered macho for getting laid and women are considered unpure for the same.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
11. I hope Trump doesn't bring her up.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

Why, I'll bet the RNC wont even remember it. That is until Rosario Dawson reminded us.
Actually her name was brought up as an example of someone bullied by the Clintons.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
69. Of course the RNC remember it
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:52 AM
Apr 2016

How could they not. They remember their efforts as a failure and a mistake they learned from. An 'automatic win' turned into an epic failure that bit them and increased Bill's popularity.

What they learned was to no be so direct and that whilst the public were amused, they were completely unimpressed by them using it as a political weapon. It will be more so with a trump should he try, as he would not be using the issue to suggest perjury, but a childish and titillating morsel for the sake of it.

It will backfire badly and if Bernie runs with this, his campaign is dead in the water even more than it is now.

Response to Spacedog1973 (Reply #69)

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
12. Monica Lewinsky has inserted herself into the campaign
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

By owning her public shaming and taking it to the people.

She's finally gotten strong enough to come out of the shadows and lead a movement against public bullying.

Shame on you for shitting all over her.

Shame.

Rosario Dawson is simply spotlighting the despicable nature of the Clintons and how they've disposed of Bills inconvenient affairs.

Its not as though the Republicans are going to just have amnesia about this.

Monica Lewinsky re-surfaced last year independent of Hillary's campaign and deserves every last bit of support anyone throws her way.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
15. the trauma from being bullied
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

creates a patterned response anytime memories or significant triggers are present. she lived through hell and was attacked by sharks because she was young. now she is strong and standing on her campaign against bullying. i salute her and more power to her and all others who have the courage to stand against this crime. courage is contagious!

for you, monica ~

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
19. Monica Lewinsky is the least of her problems. It's the other women and how Hillary acted towards
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

them.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. As disgusting and low as it it ... I'm actually kinda glad to see it. It's a good sign ...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:25 PM
Apr 2016

... that the end is near for Bernie's campaign.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
28. Yet said nothing of Bill's infidelity or his relationship to Monica.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

Or Monica's to Bill. Another piss poor attempt by Brock's lackeys to feign outrage and stir shit. Pathetic bunch.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
30. Nope. A sign of how despicable a candidate we're
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

About to pick. It"s not too late for things to turn around, there is time left..

Good for Monica, and shame on the Clintons, and their bullying goon surrogets. History will not look kindly on these people.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
36. Good for Monica? That some actress is yet again bringing her name up as a means to attack Hillary?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

You must be hella dizzy.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
86. If just bringing up a name is an attack on Hillary
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

without any mention of the affair, then Hillary needs to look in the mirror. She routinely
demonized Bill's sex partners and stayed mum about his philandering and wanted
their privacy respected. Her hypocritical and sexist behavior towards these women
is a prime example of her lack of character.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
39. Or a seriously off the rails surrogate. Her vitriol has been surprising.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:04 PM
Apr 2016

Good actress, very uninformed woman.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
45. It sucks doesn't it?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

.


This isn't even the hard stuff.

Most of the really damaging stuff remains in the archives, unless an astute GOP researcher brings other stuff up.


And, one must not pretend them to be ignorant as they've had years to build their database of points.


As a Poli-Sci guy, this makes an interesting two years


.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
61. Are bernie fans deluded
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

Into thinking this will resonate outside DU? This has absolutely killed Sanders campaign.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
67. I dont think so
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:44 AM
Apr 2016

It didn't work with Bill when he was caught lying. In fact it strengthen his popularity. People don't like this type of bullying. It doesn't play well.

This is the last gasp, the death rattle of a dying campaign that has lost relevancy. Outside DU, where Bernie fans keep some grasp on reality, they are embarrassed on your behalf.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
68. Bill Clinton should have anticipated this
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:50 AM
Apr 2016

the first time he whipped out that cigar.

Oops. Too late.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
76. ...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016


oh..and hillary and the repug congress will work hand in hand and pass every and all bills she deems worthy...

wake up...

more likely there will be a 2nd clinton impeachment..

aikoaiko

(34,171 posts)
78. Do you and your preferred candidate not support ML's strong stance against bullying?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

Perhaps you don't want to answer that publicly.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
90. "supporter" does not equal "surrogate".
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:02 PM
Apr 2016

People should read the article, all the way to the last line, and note that the speaker is described as a "supporter", not a "surrogate".

Sheesh. There's plenty of real issues to talk about. This isn't one.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
92. Rosario Dawson is considered a Sanders' campaig surrogate
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

Just like Sarandon.

Bernie has even called her that.

Lewinsky is out of bounds, as is Bernie's child out of wedlock.

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