2016 Postmortem
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(12,778 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Which isn't working for the huge majority of us.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)I can go on.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Clearly
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Clinton is not the right person for this country at this time, imo.
Not sure Bernie is either so, for me, it's not really Bernie v Hillary.
I prefer Bernie, and I am against Hillary and what her and the Clintons stand for.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)The party STILL thinks most of its core supporters have no right to ask anything more than that.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)insightdeluxe
(32 posts)ret5hd
(20,496 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Those who hated the Obama presidency will hate the Clinton presidency.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I trust his integrity and motives even when I don't agree with him.
And his intellect and personality are positive.
ridgenvalley
(58 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Minorities, LGBT, infrastructure, environment, the DEMOCRATIC nominee and NOT TRUMP or whoever. For starters.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If Trump or Cruz got elected they would be 10 times worse than Bush ever was.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)It's a vote against the American middle class.
BigMin28
(1,177 posts)And austerity for the rest of us.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Welcome to DU.
(I'm sure you'll be loved by the majority who think the "D" and "U" stand for democratic understanding.
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Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)astrophuss42
(290 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)I can think of nothing wore than a President Trump or President Cruz!
If we really try, we could get a Dem Senate & Dem house too!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)A $12 federal minimum wage at best, and I'd bet on ten bucks per hour by 2020, as if that's something good.
More fracking. More wars. More environmental degradation. More accommodation of climate change denial, even while coastal cities flood regularly.
Here's the essential problem: the global domination on the part of the United States is nearly at an end, and almost no one recognizes that, certainly not those in charge, regardless of their political party. We have thousands of military bases around the world, are engaged in I don't know how many wars. A very large percentage of our budget is devoted to our military -- and another unknown large part is black, meaning we have no idea how much money is involved -- but there's not enough money for all citizens to have even basic health care, our schools (at all levels) are underfunded, and our infrastructure is crumbling. The truly depressing thing is that if either any of the Republicans or Hillary become our next President, these things will continue: American troops will invade more countries, drones will murder citizens, students will only get through college with massive debt.
This is what it must have been like to have been a Roman citizen in the waning years of the Roman Republic, when they stood astride the known world, had established colonies as far away as Britain, employed Greek slaves to teach their children. But the barbarians were at the gates, as they are at ours, only it's not quite as overt. But everything ISIS does, every airport bombing in Europe, every high tide event in Florida that doesn't quite recede, those are the clues.
We are on the long, slow, inevitable downslide of history.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)kinder, gentler student debt
profit for insurance companies instead of medicare for all
wars of aggression
regime change
fracking
kissinger style foreign policy ("we never called it a coup" )
I could go on but this is making me sick.
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)War, domestic surveillance, torture, austerity, frack baby frack, Wall St dereg, job-killing 'free' trade, cronyism, corruption, secrecy.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I can't imagine any of the Republicans in the race sitting in the Oval Office. Can you?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)All cars will be painted white to "save energy", no more user installable light bulbs. Free Hillary Phones for lazy minority's. Mandatory sex change operations under HillaryCare. FEMA camps for Republicans and Bernie Supporters
<sarcasm> (Just updating Wingnut Obama fear from '08)