Insiders to Bernie: Don’t take the fight to Philly

[MADem]

Some insiders suggested a graceful exit could help Sanders — the independent junior Vermont senator — become a major player in Democratic politics in the years to come.
“The primary is over. There is no path, and there is no math,” added one Florida Democrat. “The sooner he lands the plane, the better chance he has at building a real legacy from this.”
And a number of Democrats sounded a note of exasperation with Sanders’ campaign — and the senator’s supporters.
“If any adults actually supported Bernie, they would tell him to get out next Wednesday morning,” said a New Hampshire Democrat. “But he doesn't have any adult supporters. So he will stay in.”
“He should also do what Hillary did in '08 — support her and convince his followers to do the same,” added a Wisconsin Democrat. “Here in Wisconsin, we have Bernie supporters posting things on Facebook like, ‘I'm not voting for Democratic Senate candidate Russ Feingold because I heard he is supporting Hillary.’ I'm not hearing any of those sentiments from Hillary supporters, and if Bernie gets the nod, I know her people will work for him, no question.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/insiders-to-bernie-dont-take-the-fight-to-philly-222291#ixzz46hCogqjp

More at link.

[Thinkingabout]

1. Leaders has different responsibilities, a legacy can be left by great leadership.

[Loudestlib]

4. "Leaders has different responsibilities?"

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Anonymous, faceless "insider" Democrats -

New Haven, Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire, none with the balls to give their names.

Wassamatta, are they afraid of confronting Bernie with their free advice?

[MADem]

18. Read down to the bottom of the article. The members of the POLITICO caucus are named.

They're not faceless or nameless, entirely. You may not be able to ascribe a specific quote to any one person but the sense of the article is pretty clear.

These are the members of The POLITICO Caucus, not all of whom participated in this survey:
Colorado: Adam Eichberg, Alan Salazar, Andrew Freedman, B.J. Nikkel, Craig Hughes, Cole Finegan, Frank McNulty, Janice Sinden, Karen Middleton, Laura Carno, Matt Chandler, Mark Ferrandino, Michael Fortney, Owen Loftus, Pat Steadman, Pat Waak, Pete Maysmith, Rick Ridder, Rob Witwer, Roxane White, Ryan Call, Steve Welchert, Taylor West, Ted Harvey, Will Coyne
Florida: Alia Faraj-Johnson, Andrea Reilly, Andrew Weinstein, Andrew Wiggins, April Schiff, Ashley Walker, Ben Pollara, Beth Matuga, Brian E. Crowley, Chris Korge, Christian Ulvert, Damien Filer, David Beattie, David Johnson, Dennis Baxley, Elizabeth Cuevas-Nuender, Eric Johnson, Eric Jotkoff, Fernand R. Amandi, Fred Menachem, Gus Corbella, Jacki Lee, Jessica D. Ehrlich, Joe Mobley, John Dowless, Jon Mills, Joseph Falk, Judith Diaz, Justin Day, Kelly Cohen, Kevin Cate, Kevin Sweeny, Marian Johnson, Mark Ferrulo, Marty Fiorentino, Max Steele, Nelson Diaz, Nick Iarossi, Pamela Burch Fort, Rich Heffley, Richard R. Swann, Rick Wilson, Roger Stone, Ronald L. Book, Ryan Duffy, Ryan Wiggins, Scott Arceneaux, Slater Bayliss, Steve Schale, Steven Vancore, Susan A. MacManus, Tim Baker, Wayne Bertsch
Iowa: Tim Albrecht, Brad Anderson, Rob Barron, Jeff Boeyink, Bonnie Campbell, Dave Caris, Sam Clovis, Sara Craig, Jerry Crawford, John Davis, Steve Deace, John Deeth, Derek Eadon, Ed Failor Jr., Karen Fesler, David Fischer, Doug Gross, Steve Grubbs, Tim Hagle, Bob Haus, Joe Henry, Drew Ivers, Jill June, Lori Jungling, Jeff Kaufmann, Brian Kennedy, Jake Ketzner, David Kochel, Chris Larimer, Chuck Larson, Jill Latham, Jeff Link, Dave Loebsack, Mark Lucas, Liz Mathis, Jan Michelson, Chad Olsen, David Oman, Matt Paul, Marlys Popma, Troy Price, Christopher Rants, Kim Reem, Craig Robinson, Sam Roecker, David Roederer, Nick Ryan, Tamara Scott, Joni Scotter, Karen Slifka, John Smith, AJ Spiker, Norm Sterzenbach, John Stineman, Matt Strawn, Phil Valenziano, Jessica Vanden Berg, Nate Willems, Eric Woolson, Grant Young
Nevada: Adam Khan, Andres Ramirez, Andrew Diss, Barbara Buckley, Bob Cavazos, Brendan Summers, Chip Evans, Chuck Muth, Dan Hart, Daniel Stewart, Ed Williams, Emmy Ruiz, Erven T. Nelson, Greg Bailor, Heidi Wixom, Jack St. Martin, James Smack, Jay Gertsema, Jeremy Hughes, Jim DeGraffenreid, Jon Ralston, Kristen Orthman, Laura Martin, Linda Cavazos, Lindsey Jydstrup, Mac Abrams, Mari St. Martin, Marla Turner, Megan Jones, Michael McDonald, Michelle White, Mike Slanker, Neal Patel, Nick Phillips, Oscar Goodman, Pat Hickey, Paul Smith, Pete Ernaut, Peter Koltak, Riley Sutton, Robert Uithoven, Roberta Lange, Ryan Erwin, Ryan Hamilton, Sam Lieberman, Scott Scheid, Yvanna Cancela, Zach Hudson
New Hampshire: Charlie Arlinghaus, Arnie Arnesen, Patrick Arnold, Rich Ashooh, Dean Barker, Juliana Bergeron, D.J. Bettencourt, Michael Biundo, Ray Buckley, Peter Burling, Jamie Burnett, Debby Butler, Dave Carney, Jackie Cilley, Catherine Corkery, Garth Corriveau, Fergus Cullen, Lou D’Allesandro, James Demers, Mike Dennehy, Sean Downey, Steve Duprey, JoAnn Fenton, Jennifer Frizzell, Martha Fuller Clark, Amanda Grady Sexton, Jack Heath, Gary Hirshberg, Jennifer Horn, Peter Kavanaugh, Joe Keefe, Rich Killion, Harrell Kirstein, Sylvia Larsen, Joel Maiola, Kate Malloy Corriveau, Maureen Manning, Steve Marchand, Tory Mazzola, Jim Merrill, Jayne Millerick, Claira Monier, Greg Moore, Matt Mowers, Terie Norelli, Chris Pappas, Liz Purdy, Tom Rath, Colin Reed, Jim Rubens, Andy Sanborn, Dante Scala, William Shaheen, Stefany Shaheen, Carol Shea-Porter, Terry Shumaker, Andy Smith, Craig Stevens, Kathy Sullivan, Chris Sununu, James Sununu, Jay Surdukowski, Donna Sytek, Kari Thurman, Colin Van Ostern, Deb Vanderbeek, Mike Vlacich, Ryan Williams
North Carolina: Anita S. Earls, Brad Thompson, Bruce Thompson, Charles Wallin, Christopher Sgro, Dee Stewart, Douglas Wilson, Dylan Frick, Francis X. De Luca, Jonathan Felts, Melissa Reed, Michael Luethy, Morgan Jackson, Paul Shumaker, Patsy Keever, Ray Martin, Robin Hayes, Tami Fitzgerald, Taylor Griffin, Theresa Kostrzewa, Thomas Mills
Ohio: Bill DeMora, Bob Clegg, Cindy Demse, Damareo Cooper, David Leland, David Pepper, Erica Bruton, Greg Beswick, Ian James, Jai Chabria, Janet Carson, Jo Ann Davidson, Joe Hallett, Kathy DiCristofaro, Katie Eagan, Mark R. Weaver, Martha Clark, Matt Borges, Melissa Klide Hedden, Michael Gonidakis, Mike Dawson, Molly Shack, Nick Martin, Rhine McLin, Tim Burke, Wes Goodman
Pennsylvania: Charlie Gerow, Christopher Nicholas, Christopher P. Borick, Daniel F. Fee, David P. Sosar, David Thornburgh, Doc Sweitzer, Jason Ercole, Larry Ceisler, Marcel Groen, Mark Harris, Nachama Soloveichik, Ray Zaborney, Todd Stephens, Valentino DiGiorgio
Virginia: Abbi Easter, Bob Marshall, Brian Coy, Carolyn Fiddler, Chris LaCivita, Doris Crouse-Mays, Ed Matricardi, Frank Leone, Gaylene Kanoyton, Janet Carver, Jeannemarie Devoltes Davis, Jo Thoburn, Joe Fitzgerald, John Crosgrove, John Findlay, Marc Broklawski, Margo Horner, Michael Farris, Patsy Brown, Pete Snyder, Ray Allen, Sandra Brandt, Steve Stombres, Sue Langley, Susan J. Rowland, Susan Swecker, Tom Davis, Tucker Martin
Wisconsin: Barry Burden, Brandon Scholz, Emily Nehring, Gary B. Hawley, Jason Rae, Jim Camery, John T. Zaphfel, Kevin Barthel, Meg Andrietsch, Marian Krumberger, Mary Arnold, Michael Basford, Patrick Guarasci, Rebecca Bonesteel, Robert Hansen, Terri Burl


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/insiders-to-bernie-dont-take-the-fight-to-philly-222291#ixzz46iC1FtFa

[TheCowsCameHome]

19. "... not all of whom participated....."

Really lame on their part. Not one had the guts to go on record.

About the same as "anonymous sources", actually.

[MADem]

22. Well, take it up with them, I guess! It's one of that lot, I should imagine that

insiders can probably pick out the person.

[Major Hogwash]

3. Beltway politics is dead!

“If any adults actually supported Bernie, they would tell him to get out next Wednesday morning,” said a New Hampshire Democrat. “But he doesn't have any adult supporters. So he will stay in.”

[Blue_In_AK]

6. Who knew that at almost 70 I'm not an adult.

[B Calm]

9. 65 yr old here, so glad I'm not growing old. I hope I never grow up!

Feel sorry for those aged Hillary supporters.

[Blue_In_AK]

17. I'm not growing old, either.

When I was a kid, my grandparents seemed so old at 70, and my parents, too, seemed elderly as they approached that age, but I feel great. I'm never sick, don't take any medication except Synthroid, walk 15 miles a week, play with the grandkids on the floor when I get the chance. I feel like I'm about 45. Lucky, I guess.

[tex-wyo-dem]

7. Yeah, really... Nice olive branch he's extending there...

Not.

This 51 yo Bernie supporter takes offense.

Go Bernie!

[dana_b]

5. they're mad because he has his own brain and

doesn't do what they tell him to do (thankfully).

I'll take the insults but I sure as hell won't be there for them.

[Babel_17]

8. "If any adults actually supported Bernie", lol

Yeah, that's the reality based community Sanders should listen to.

"... Bernie supporters posting things on Facebook ..."

Just, wow.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. My heart bleeds for "insiders" and their worries.

[TheDormouse]

11. lol - hard to bribe a candidate in his mid 70s

Sanders is at the end of his career. You can't dangle a lucrative healthcare industry lobbying job in front of him and expect to be able to buy him off that way. (Not that I think he is the bribable type anyway.)

[riderinthestorm]

14. I'm sure he also knows the Clintons will destroy his career no matter what

They're notoriously vindictive and Bernie has not only challenged her, he's done amazingly well.

The Clintons will ensure he's stripped of seniority and committee positions no matter what happens. What does he have to lose really?

By staying in, he reaches many more millions of people with his message. He's in his mid 70s. I'm sure he's thinking of retaining his integrity, not whether he'll be on the lucrative speaking circuit.

[TheDormouse]

15. He's already ignited a movement among the future of the party

Hillary's losing the votes of Democrats under 40 by huge margins.

What does Sanders care about party seniority for the next 5-8 years compared to the impact his campaign has had on the aspirations of young progressives? People will still be talking about the Sanders campaign 10 years from now. That will be his true legacy.

[Ken Burch]

12. More arguments for giving up on working for change.

If you really want Bernie to get out, here are some things you COULD push HRC to do which might lead to something like that happening:

1) Accept Sanders language on a significant number of platform items(there is no need or justification for the usual "I'm the frontrunner-everything has to be exactly MY way" approach on this...in fact, there never has been).

2) Have HRC make it clear that she will honor and encourage continued grassroots activism for social and ECONOMIC change.

3) A promise by HRC to sign anything Bernie and his supporters manage to get through Congress.

Things like that would do a lot more to pave the way to unity rather than simply demanding unconditional surrender. If HRC is the nominee, there is nobody in the fall who is only going to vote for her if she tells the Sanders movement to "pound sand and peddle it walking" as a former, unlamented poster here used to say to all progressives in all discussions). This isn't 1992 and no "Sistah Souljah" moments are going to be needed(not that that was needed then, of course).

It's time for the party to act differently...to make the nomination/unification process different than it has been.

[whatchamacallit]

13. "Insiders" = concern trolls

[ridgenvalley]

16. F**k this Sh*t

Bernie isn't in it to enhance his standing in the sad excuse for a Party.

He's in it to change the direction and priorities of the country.

And he will never be a sell-out. Sorry, establishment "insiders".

[hobbit709]

20. Let me put this simply. Fuck the insider establishment and the horse they rode in on.

[Marrah_G]

21. I prefer he not listen to Hillary's buddies

They certainly do not have our best interests at heart.