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Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:06 PM Apr 2016

Paradox or sham?

The Democratic and Republican leaders in the 2016 White House race are unusually unpopular nationally, polls show, despite their success with voters in their respective parties.

Paradox or sham?

Funny how that unpopularity is NOT reflected in the voting booth. Sham.

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JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. Its called the Theory of Reasoned Action.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

You should look into it. Its a model for understanding the relationship between attitudes and behavior.

In short, questions about attitudes rarely predict subsequent behavior, unless the attitude in question is specifically focused on the behavior in question.

The mistake you are making is a common one. And that mistake is to assume that an "abstract attitude", like "popularity" will predict voting behavior.

Abstract attitudes (favorability, popularity, so on) have a very weak correlation with subsequent behavior. And it was that observation found in many psychological and sociological studies which prompted researchers to try and figure out why the correlation was so low. Like you, early attitude researches assumed that the correlation between abstract attitudes and behavior would be higher.

Over three decades, what they found is that if you want use attitudes to predict a certain behavior, then you have to examine attitudes towards performing that specific behavior. The closer the connection between the attitude and the behavior, the higher the correlation.

A simple example. You go to the grocery store and you encounter a person giving out free samples of some food product. You try it. And they ask you if you like it. And you say "yes". It turns out, you are no more likely to purchase that food item than a person who says "no" they don't like it.

The person who says "no" might buy it for some one else in the home thinking that THEY will like it. You said "yes", but you have people at home who you think won't like it. So you don't buy it. Asking some one if they "like" something will not predict the subsequent behavior. There are too many other factors involved.

The point is that if you want to predict whether some one is going to purchase that product, you have to ask them not if they "like" it, but if they are "likely to buy it today." Ask THAT question, and you get a much higher correlation between the attitude and the behavior.

And that's why "popularity" fails as a predictor of voting behavior.

The summary here is ok, but the guys who conducted the research over the last 30 years (Fishbein and Ajzen) have written large texts on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_reasoned_action

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. Wrong again, the Theory of Reasoned Action is not just about "marketing".
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

It actually describes the relationship between ALL comparisons of attitudes and behavior.

The wikipedia summary focuses on the marketing application, but the model is accurate in all aspects of life. Which is why I suggested you consider some of their more detailed textbooks.

Here's the bottom line. You asked a question. And I've given you the tools to help you understand why your assumption about the correlation between "popularity" and "voting behavior" (or the lack thereof) is flawed.

You can learn, or not.

Its up to you really. I figure even if YOU don't learn something from this exchange, others who read it will. And that is why I decided to perform this specific behavior.



Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
8. Well of course they all immediately ran off to read everything they
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

could about the theory of reasoned action. Toooools!

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
9. It's something I've learned from our corrupt system
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

Control the debate.

Or as Noam Chomsky so elequently put it:

“The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum....”
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