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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:58 PM Apr 2016

'Sanders must win all remaining contests by 20 points to catch Clinton in pledged delegates.'

That's from National Public Radio (NPR) today on Weekend Edition.

Okay, Bernie supporters, how is Bernie going to do it?

Does anyone know the specifics that comprise his 'path to victory'?

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'Sanders must win all remaining contests by 20 points to catch Clinton in pledged delegates.' (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
He's going to keep Clinton below viability in California KingFlorez Apr 2016 #1
No chance. griffi94 Apr 2016 #2
Victory? Meteor Man Apr 2016 #3
No MM, I get it. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #6
Regardless, Clinton won't win enough pledged delegates herself to clinch TheDormouse Apr 2016 #4
Sure would be useful to see the numbers that support your statement. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #5
Yes TheDormouse Apr 2016 #7
The Democratic Convention will not be contested SFnomad Apr 2016 #11
Those numbers appear to be wrong. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #13
He also quotes only the numbers that said 'I will vote for Hillary', without giving 'don't knows' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #15
I think that was posted before NY, no? Sparkly Apr 2016 #18
True -- if we apply a NEW standard and move the goal posts for the first woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #16
Hmmm. That's not going to happen. He just can't do it. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #8
reality it conspiracy to some. There aint no convincing people who are so deluded. boston bean Apr 2016 #10
Never. Gonna. Happen. n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #9
Your point? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #12
Why post this? Whining? Gloating? Or just being arrogant? nt Logical Apr 2016 #14
Logical, come on. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #17
We all know the chances of Berrnie Sanders winning the primary are close to zero. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #19

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
3. Victory?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

You still don't get it. The revolution will not end with the primary.

The GE will not sidetrack the revolution. This is the warm up. Democracy Spring is the warm up.

Feeling The Bern is victory in and of itself. Throw off the shackles and rise up! Rise up for the long battle ahead!

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
6. No MM, I get it.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

I'm tired of posting ad nauseum that it's the revolution that matters most, not all the bitching about Hillary.

I'm waiting to see the Democracy Spring. So far, it seems to be hanging out in the wings instead of center stage.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
4. Regardless, Clinton won't win enough pledged delegates herself to clinch
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

the nomination before the convention.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
5. Sure would be useful to see the numbers that support your statement.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

I've heard your view from many others. But there's been nothing specifically provided that supports Bernie's 'path to victory.' Have you seen anything?

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
11. The Democratic Convention will not be contested
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

If BS drags it out that far, it will be Secretary Clinton winning it on the first round of balloting. She will have the majority of pledged delegates, she will have the vast supermajority of Superdelegates ... which will only mean one thing ... Secretary Clinton will be the Democratic Nominee.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
13. Those numbers appear to be wrong.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

The article begins with percentages that are inconsistent with the latest polling.

The total projected percentages for Hillary: for PA, the latest two polls have it at 52% and 58% rather than the article's 49%. For Maryland, it's 57% and 58% instead of 55%. For New York of course, the actual percentage is 58% versus the article's projected 53%.

For California, the article is only off by 1 point: 47% and the latest poll's 48% result. But who knows what will happen in California in June?

The source for the latest numbers is http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com

The article's misses are because the piece is 11 days old.

I guess my point is that we really don't know what the actual numbers will be, but given her NY win, Tuesday is not looking so good for Sanders. But who knows - so much that's happened in the last 6 months was not predicted.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
15. He also quotes only the numbers that said 'I will vote for Hillary', without giving 'don't knows'
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

So he quotes the latest poll he had for New York then as 'Clinton 53%'. That would appear to be the April 12th Quinnipac poll - Clinton 53%, Sanders 40%. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/#

53% out of 93% is 57% out of 100% - ie very close to the actual New York result.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. True -- if we apply a NEW standard and move the goal posts for the first woman
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:27 PM
Apr 2016

to ever get this far.

The standard applied to men has been getting a majority of PLEDGED delegates -- which would mean 2026. She will have no problem doing that.

The only reason she wouldn't have enough delegates is if -- for the first time, for the first woman -- we make her wait till the convention to claim the super delegates who have already endorsed her.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Hmmm. That's not going to happen. He just can't do it.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is NOT going to be our party's nominee. There's just no two ways about it. Our nominee will be Hillary Clinton.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
10. reality it conspiracy to some. There aint no convincing people who are so deluded.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sorry I don't have a better word for it, but it fits perfectly.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
17. Logical, come on.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016

Be logical. Read the last sentence of my post.

I'm asking for any useful information (meaning from an objective source) about the state of the race from here on. Because I haven't seen any.

Second sentence - I ask Bernie supporters because they dominate this forum and so would be more likely to have info. Not that many Hillary supporters here.

No snark intended.

Stop being so dang touchy.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
19. We all know the chances of Berrnie Sanders winning the primary are close to zero.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

But still I think he needs to stay in until everyone has a chance to vote and withhold his support and endorsement for Clinton unless concessions are made.

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