Since I have seen the Sanders isn't a Democrat meme pop up a lot the last few days here...

[Else You Are Mad]

Someone please tell me where in his record does it indicate he has been against the Democratic party:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. "Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh...

.....gimmee another question".

[pdsimdars]

17. Here's how Hillary would answer it, "Well, the way I look at it is . . . . . " (change subject)

[wyldwolf]

2. Right here

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/15/1409803/-Introducing-Bernie-Sanders-the-Hypocrite

[Else You Are Mad]

3. Wait... But I have been told by Hillary Supporters...

It isn't right to bring up things a candidate said in the past when it contradicts them now...

But, on his merits alone, he is 100% in line with the Democratic party.

[wyldwolf]

4. You asked a question. Did you want a 'this very minute' answer or a future prediction?

But, on his merits alone, he is 100% in line with the Democratic party.

So when he made those disparaging comments about the Democratic party, he was just joking? Why would he vote with us if he thinks so little of us? There's a word for that.

[Else You Are Mad]

7. Really, that is how you are going to respond.

The link I provided explains in detail how Sanders has voted in both the House and Senate as well as list the bills he has sponsored. But, I guess you didn't go to the link I posted before you made your comment.

But, thanks!

Let me help you out.. But but gun manufacturer liability, auto bailout and the crime bill.

[wyldwolf]

8. yeah, that's how I'm going to respond.

Bernie really had no choice but to vote the way he did. What, was he going to vote with Republicans? LOL.

Bernie is no Democrat. He wants to burn the party down.

[Else You Are Mad]

22. So, let's get this straight...

He wouldn't vote along with Republicans because of his deeply help political beliefs so he voted with the Democrats. So, thus, that is equivalent to tearing the party apart? It seems to me, that if one thinks that a person who firmly caucuses with the Democrats will tear the party apart because of his left liberal beliefs, you might be in the wrong party.

[randome]

43. Clinton voted with Sanders > 90% of the time yet you don't think she's a Democrat, right?

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[Else You Are Mad]

45. I never said she wasn't a Democrat.

She is, without a doubt, a Democrat. Merely because I prefer Sanders political stances over Hillary's does not mean I ever doubted she was a Democrat.

[lakeguy]

5. that meme is for the people who need a 'team' to cheer for.

for the rest of us who actually look at ideas and actions, it doesn't mean a thing. unfortunately the team players are many, and the independent thinkers are few.

[djean111]

6. Must be when he caucuses with them? Um, no, wait, um -

oh! I got it! For some people, the letter D means vastly more than principles. From what I can gather.

Oddly enough, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (HEAD of the DNC, FFS) can do a really really shitty job, preside over an immense loss of Democrats holding office, goes directly against Obama, openly supports GOP cronies here in Florida against fellow Democrats, has left races unchallenged rather than support a liberal or Progressive, shills for payday lenders and against medical marijuana (oh, and that is a stance she would change if people would stop saying mean things about her, so evidently her principles are a bit bendy) - and I am supposed to kiss her ass by sending her money and supporting whatever she deems I should support. (NO, I will not, ever.)

And - ladies and gentlemen - that is what passes for a "Democrat" these days. Which makes the whole meme of Bernie not being a Democrat really really moot. And stupid. He likely votes with the Democrats more than Miss Third Way Debbie does.

[Beowulf]

9. Paul Wellstone used to introduce himself as being from

the "Democratic" wing of the Democratic Party, certainly a criticism of establishment Democrats. There seems little difference between Wellstone and Bernie on this.

[floriduck]

10. There you go ruining the Clinton meditation rom.

Without these sort of fantasies, they'll get even more testy. If that's possible.

[Buzz Clik]

13. "Sanders Still Registered as Independent"

Sanders Still Registered as Independent Despite Claims He’s a ‘Democrat For Life’

BY: Lachlan Markay
April 21, 2016 1:05 pm

Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager insisted on Wednesday that the socialist presidential candidate is a “Democrat for life,” but Sanders’ Senate campaign recently filed documentation declaring him an independent, public records show.

“He is a Democrat. He’s said he’s a Democrat, and he’s going to be supporting the Democratic nominee, whoever that is,” said Jeff Weaver, manager of Sanders’ presidential campaign.

Asked whether he is a “Democrat for life,” Weaver insisted, “yes.”

Sanders said in November that he would run in all future elections as a member of the Democratic Party.

However, when Sanders’ Senate campaign committee renewed its registration with the Federal Election Commission in October, it listed its party affiliation as “independent.”

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-still-registered-independent-despite-claims-hes-democrat-life/

[floriduck]

20. It's not the title that dictates, it's the core beliefs.

Hillary is a Democrat who believes in more Republican-like values. Just to eliminate the need for you to challenge me, up until after she announced her candidacy formally (she's been running since 2008), she supported the Keystone Pipeline, the gold standard TPP, still wants a Syrian no fly zone, utilized the advantages of the Citizen's United fund raising method, and many others.

So it's less about labels and more about actions. And Bernie was the original leader of and founder of the Progressive Caucus.

You have a habit of always wanting the last word. You can have it as I am done with you and your propaganda. Bye!

[randome]

44. Wrong. It's the willingness to work as a team. To work together toward a common goal.

Sanders does little of that. He sees himself as a one-man army. Maybe it's not his fault, it's just the way he's constructed. But it's the reason he's losing the nomination, IMO.
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[Joob]

11. They're just pointing out they aren't Democrats when they say that.

[Buzz Clik]

14. Yeah, that's it.

It's also why Sanders lost by double digits in in closed primaries, including the state of his birth -- because he's such a Democrat that Dems won't vote for him.

Boy, we are SO not Democrats.

[Buzz Clik]

12. Well, there is his party declaration:

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/344/201510160200258344/201510160200258344.pdf

"IND" not, "DEM"

[Else You Are Mad]

16. Just a friendly reminder

These people are 'Democrats' too:

http://bluedogdems.ngpvanhost.com/content/blue-dog-membership-1

Just because a person has a D after their name doesn't mean much compared to what they stand for. After all wasn't that Kim Davis a Democrat?

[Buzz Clik]

18. ... and just because you say someone is or isn't a Democrat, it doesn't make it so.

The Sanders crowd are very fond of being exclusive of anyone who doesn't fall into line. And this is the same crowd supposedly fighting against the Establishment.

What a joke.

[Else You Are Mad]

19. Not really.

Yes, because they have political beliefs that differ from those they don't support. There is nothing wrong with backing a candidate you believe in against a candidate that doesn't share your values in a primary. Last time I checked that was called democracy.

[Buzz Clik]

25. Ok. But that was never a part of the discussion.

[pdsimdars]

15. I think this makes it prefectly clear who is on what side of the isle.

It is not the NAME they put on themselves but the ACTIONS they take, the ISSUES they support.







Shouldn't that end their nonsense?

[Amaril]

23. It doesn't get much clearer than that

You should post that in every single thread on this board.

[2banon]

24. Good chart, and to answer your question, One Would Think so.. but here?

not so much.

They don't get or care that:

Bourgeois Feminism=NeoLiberalism

NeoLiberalism=NeoConservatism

[oldandhappy]

32. excellent. Thank you.

[oberliner]

41. Interestingly, "gun control" is not listed among the issues

Why is that?

[electronlove]

42. True Democrat

I suppose that if Bernie is not really a Democrat, then he should drop out now and run as an Independent. That would certainly stop people from worrying about his effect on the Democratic party.

[awake]

21. I will have to look into that

Maybe they are with the transcripts of Hillary's Wallstreet speeches

[840high]

26. zing!!!!!

[Squinch]

27. Really, who cares what party Sanders is in. He lost. He's out of it. It isn't about him any more.

You guys are hip deep in dead horses.

[Else You Are Mad]

28. Well...

Come California, even if I am neck deep in dead horses, I will take solace in the fact he kept her on the left so she couldn't pivot back to her normal center right "moderate" position.

[Else You Are Mad]

30. Well, dear, you care or you wouldn't be responding.

Very truly yours,
/s/ Every Sanders Supporter

[Squinch]

31. That really doesn't follow. You really thought that was a gotcha, didn't you?

[MsFlorida]

33. Why don't you take the f and u train

[Else You Are Mad]

35. There is no need for that! nt

[Squinch]

37. .

[Else You Are Mad]

34. Nope, just a reply.

I was just saying your 'no one cares' comment was wrong because every Sanders supporter thinks otherwise. It was a tad snarky, but not a gotcha.

A gotcha would be to ask what newspapers you read!

[Squinch]

38. You know what? You're right. It was snarky for me to say no one cares. I'll delete.

[Else You Are Mad]

39. Nah, it is all good.

Tensions are high, but we are all on the same team in the end!

[Squinch]

40. I am glad to hear that!

[beedle]

36. Yeah, I remember when a drunken Sanders layed into President Obama

Obviously not a real Democrat

Obama has turned into a joke,

The IRS targeting the Tea Party, the Justice Department’s seizure of AP phone records and James Rosen’s emails — all these scandals. Obama’s allowed his hatred for his enemies to screw him the way Nixon did, incompetent and feckless.

He agreed to the arrangement but then he reneged on the deal. His word isn’t worth sh*t, The bad blood between us is just too much to overcome.

Opps, did I say Sanders ... sorry, that was some other "Democratic" candidate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2670920/The-moment-Hillary-Clinton-let-loose-Obama-booze-fueled-rant-new-book-reveals.html

[cherokeeprogressive]

46. To Hillary supporters, Democrat is nothing more than a check mark on a fucking post card.

It's no longer about having Democratic ideals; it's about belonging to the club. What makes me laugh is they think they're part. NEWSFLASH it's a big club but they ain't in it.

And Bernie Sanders is more of a Democrat (harkening back to when it was an ideal and not a paycheck) than Hillary Clinton could ever DREAM of being.