2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo all Hillary supporters, in 2008 did you vote for change or status quo?
I saw on OP that asked Bernie supporters who they voted for -- Obama or Clinton.
I think the more insightful question is what KIND of candidate did you vote for.
Did you vote for the one who said he'd change the way things are done in Washington?
Did you vote for the one who supported NAFTA or the one who said he'd re-negotiate it?
Did you vote for the one who voted for the Iraq war or not?
Base it on ISSUES, not PEOPLE.
brooklynite
(94,602 posts)...here's a surprise. People DON'T vote for issues, they vote for people.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I voted for the winner, President Obama. This year, I will also vote for the winner, and for a candidate who has been a Democratic Party member for many many years.
That's pretty much how I roll.
athena
(4,187 posts)"Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is the adjective. The use of the noun in place of the adjective was invented by Republicans, who think "Democrat" sounds like "rat", and that "Democratic" brings to mind "democratic" ideals. Don't let them win on this.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)structure without changing the noun to an adjective. Originally, it read "voted for a Democrat." Then, I decided to make it "a member of the Democratic Party." I forgot to make the part of speech change. Thanks for the correction. It's edited.
athena
(4,187 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That's nice, but guess what? The political process is executed by PEOPLE, and the political skill of the people involved matters.
I voted for Obama in 2008, not just becuase of his position on the issues (frankly, the difference on issues wasn't all that great), but because I think Obama is one of the most skilled politicians in American history. Hillary is also skilled, but she couldn't match Obama, IMO.
athena
(4,187 posts)because I read an article published before he decided to run, that explained that if he did not run in 2008, he probably wouldn't be able to win later. I felt that it was important to have a Black president. I feel I was right, because without him, we wouldn't have realized how much racism still exists in this country and how much work we still have to do to overcome bigotry.
Issues are important, but the person who will be president is important, too.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)It didn't fly with me when Barack talked about how he would play nice and work with Republicans. I grew up in the 1990s during the Bill Clinton presidencies. I knew from then that Republicans couldn't be trusted. So, I was drawn to Hillary's realistic proposals and her fighter mentality.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)I viewed Hillary as the superior choice based on her range of experience at that point.
One would struggle to find much difference in their policy positions at that time.