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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:20 PM Apr 2016

Now here's an interesting question.

For sake of discussion, let's say that Hillary gets the Democratic nomination. She and Bernie negotiate for Bernie's endorsement, but that breaks down, and Bernie does not endorse her.

What does his senior adviser, Tad Devine do?

Tad has been running Bernie's campaign so far.

Now take a look at his clients on his website: http://dmlmessage.com/clients/

Kerry, Gore, Whitehouse, essentially a long list of prominent Democrats, present and a few past. (Tad was a senior adviser for the Dukakis, Gore and Kerry campaigns). And I'd bet that there are several more less prominent Dems.

It's obvious that Tad's financial future relies on Democratic clients.

If Bernie, who's running for the leadership of the Democratic Party, does not endorse or campaign for the Democratic nominee, it's rather obvious that he'll spend a long, long time in the wood shed back in WDC. Especially if Hillary lost the election.

So goes Bernie, so goes Tad? Money talks, and for Tad, the health of his future income would be talking to him.

Overall, an interesting dilemma for Tad. Which adds to the unpredictability of July and thereafter.




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Now here's an interesting question. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
He'll be fine, he's got a safety net. Agschmid Apr 2016 #1
What is that? nt kstewart33 Apr 2016 #4
The guy is loaded. Agschmid Apr 2016 #5
I didn't know that. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #6
It won't happen. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2
Bernie will endorse Hillary. sufrommich Apr 2016 #3
I think he will, if the Clinton campaign meets his platform conditions. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #7
Nope. It would be political suicide for Bernie if he does not endorse Hillary. leftofcool Apr 2016 #13
Vermont won't reelect him? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #24
Devine Will be able to convert Bernie's success into future, lucrative Democratic contracts redstateblues Apr 2016 #8
Bernie is not going any where awake Apr 2016 #9
Really? When the ultimate corporatist has control of the Democratic Party? Skwmom Apr 2016 #10
Ether the party take back control and puts back in the hands of the people or it losses awake Apr 2016 #11
It could happen. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #17
Funny, I know moderates and conservatives that are against Corporatists (which is why Camp Skwmom Apr 2016 #20
You bet. I'm center-left and I'm with you on corporate corruption. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #21
All I can say is you might want to do some research. Skwmom Apr 2016 #22
Now Skwmom, you're not the only one who reads. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #23
What was that? shenmue Apr 2016 #14
Maybe he could get by giving speeches? Loudestlib Apr 2016 #12
Bernie isn't Tad's first campaign failure, and is sure to not be his last... tritsofme Apr 2016 #15
This time it's different. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #16
Work for Stein or Nader? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #25
One democrat uses David "Anita Hill is a little bit nutty and a Lillie bit slutty" Brock Autumn Apr 2016 #18
Good ole David Brock. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #19
 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
2. It won't happen.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

No matter what, Bernie will give some sort of tepid endorsement to Hillary. It would be career suicide if he didn't. Unless he plans to retire, he would never get a prime spot on a committee without playing nice with the party. He's be a lone angry guy out there on his own with absolutely no power.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. Bernie will endorse Hillary.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

If not,Devine will quickly distance himself from Sanders,I doubt that it would be much of a dilemma for him at that point.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
7. I think he will, if the Clinton campaign meets his platform conditions.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders failure to endorse her would be crippling. Clinton knows the real magnitude of his support. I have my doubts that her ego would allow her to turn on her Wall Street benefactors.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
13. Nope. It would be political suicide for Bernie if he does not endorse Hillary.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary will have her own platform. It will not be Bernie's.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
24. Vermont won't reelect him?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

What we have here is failure to communicate. Sanders is not in this for himself - Clinton supporters do not understand.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
8. Devine Will be able to convert Bernie's success into future, lucrative Democratic contracts
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

if he does the right thing

awake

(3,226 posts)
9. Bernie is not going any where
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

If he is not the nominee, he will stay in the party and most of his people will stay as well the Demorcarate party is on its way back to its roots that of FDR. As much as the insiders want to stay in power the writing is on the wall the future of our party belongs to Bernie's people for this is slowly becoming once again the party of, by and for the people. We are talking about a revolution which may be slowed but will not stop, the torch has been pasted. Bernie has carried the flame of the freedom movements of the 60s and millions of young people have once again become inspired to change the system and will carry flame on until the corruption in the halls of power is burn down, not by force or greed but by belief in the great people of this once great country.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
10. Really? When the ultimate corporatist has control of the Democratic Party?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

It will NEVER again be the party of FDR.

awake

(3,226 posts)
11. Ether the party take back control and puts back in the hands of the people or it losses
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

That is the thing about corruption it rots things from the inside out. Corporatist may still be in control today but the new voters are fast learners and change is happening faster than the bosses realize. Just like in Colorado Bernie's people are slowing gaining power partly because they can not be bought.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
17. It could happen.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

But it will take a generation of time. Currently, liberals comprise less than a third of the Democratic party. Seventy percent are moderates and Blue Democrats.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
20. Funny, I know moderates and conservatives that are against Corporatists (which is why Camp
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton wants to desperately keep that hidden).

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
21. You bet. I'm center-left and I'm with you on corporate corruption.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

I just think Clinton is the best candidate that we have.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
15. Bernie isn't Tad's first campaign failure, and is sure to not be his last...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

He always seems to find work, I'm not so worried about him.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
16. This time it's different.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

Tad would have to go on a lot of TV shows and defend the move - a 'Democrat' refusing to endorse the party nominee.

A tough meme to sell for a man's whose success has come from the Democratic party.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
18. One democrat uses David "Anita Hill is a little bit nutty and a Lillie bit slutty" Brock
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

so Tad Devine will do just fine.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
19. Good ole David Brock.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

As a Hillary supporter, I agree with your Brock characterization. Hopefully he's reformed because in his rabid conservative days, he was awful.

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