2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama Chides Black Lives Matter for ‘Yelling’ Down Leaders (defends Clinton)
Speaking during a town hall for young people in London on Saturday, Obama credited the group with shining a spotlight on police brutality, but said generally activists should be willing to compromise once theyve gotten attention from those who have power to make changes.
You cant just keep on yelling at them and you cant refuse to meet because that might compromise the purity of your position, Obama said as he discussed his own experience as a community organizer before entering politics.
Activists from the Black Lives Matter movement, which gained national attention amid police brutality protests in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014, have protested at several Clinton events. They got into a shouting match with former president Bill Clinton earlier this month. Activists from the group have also protested at rallies for Bernie Sanders and Republican frontrunner Donald Trump.
Read more at http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-23/obama-chides-black-lives-matter-group-for-yelling-down-leaders
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Who gets the support - Hillary/Obama or BLM? And, as I have seen some on here very critical of anyone who states they do not like the methods of BLM, does that now pass to Obama as well?
Popcorn is popping, recliner is prepared.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)And those who were not POC that dared to criticize were beaten down quite handily, in many cases for saying exactly what the President just said.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)I think I'll take the position of the community organizer who went on to become President of the United States. Be angry. Demand accountability. But there's a right way and a wrong way to get your message across.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Bill Clinton may have admitted a mistake with the crime bill, but he and Hillary both need to do more. A foundation for reparations for those affected by mass incaceration would be a start.
Anger is one reasonable response. One that might be more reasonable for a person who saw friends and family spend significant time in prison over a nonviolent felony would be rage. Less rational, but certainly a more proportional response to the kind of injustice perpetrated.
I get what he is saying, but he is speaking from the vantage point of privilege. Black people have been very patient as they have been beaten down physically and emotionally after starting from a point of disadvantage in the first place. This is the stuff of rage and I am surprised it has taken so long for people to fervently demand that USAers recognize the value of black lives.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I was so glad to see Bernie Sanders willingly give up the mic when interrupted at his event and stand back to listen. That rage is fully justifiable and I don't see how anyone could question where it comes from or why it's there.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I supported BLM then and I always will. Bernie treating them with respect was a very revealing moment for me.
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)If Hillary promised to do this, it would go a long way toward winning my vote.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I am hoping very much that Obama deschedules marijuana before he leaves office. That way Hillary's opposition would be moot.
Honestly, I could possibly regain some resepct if they would own that mistake and work to make ammends.
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)What bullshit
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)I personally think Bernie has been the most understanding of protesters/activists but
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Overall, I think the President is/has been very respectful to protesters/activists.
Especially the ones interrupting various functions of his.
In general he's always given them their say.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Has any grand poobah had a serious conversation with BLM?
Cops are still killing.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Black Lives Matter Activist Says Obama Meeting Was Positive
Stellar
(5,644 posts)http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/chicago-black-lives-matter-leader-snubs-wh-invite
To critics, Obamas scolding tone with black audiences is getting old
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-critics-obamas-scolding-tone-with-black-audiences-is-getting-old/2013/05/20/4b267352-c191-11e2-bfdb-3886a561c1ff_story.html
Obama Pressed on How He Talks to Black Community
http://time.com/3856155/barack-obama-ta-nehisi-coates/
Why Cant Obama Talk To Black Americans Like That?
http://newsone.com/3042617/why-cant-obama-talk-to-black-americans-like-that/
Fear of a Black President
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/09/fear-of-a-black-president/309064/
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)media talking head shut that down real quick.
It's sad that a group fighting for such a worthy cause is being used for political purposes.