There's a reason Howard Dean supports Hillary

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Anybody with any sense would see he's extremely biased.

Howard Dean, Now Employed by Health Care Lobby Firm, Opposes Bernie Sanders on Single-Payer

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/

[aikoaiko]

1. Bought and paid for "Democrat"

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4. Greed has infected our Party

[99Forever]

2. Because he sold out.

Just another turncoat corrupt corporate scumbag now.

[bigwillq]

3. Another bought and paid Democrat (nt)

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7. And of course the HRC camp posts him here frequently

[corkhead]

9. which qualifies him to be our next Surgeon General.

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12. Oh crap

Say it ain't so.

[Hydra]

37. Or some other position

Krugman is chasing one himself.

The only people I see cheering for HRC are people who think they'll get a payoff of some kind or another in return.

[karynnj]

28. I hope that is not his goal, as I doubt that Clinton will give it to him

Even though he has been a team player for them, he still can be a loose cannon. I would bet that might be the last thing that HRC wants in her administration.

What he may learn is that in Clintonland, while loyalty to the Clintons is ultra important, it flows just one way. Look back at Bill Clinton's years, it is hard to point to any person he nominated and then backed, when political capital was at issue, when they faced opposition.

[Kip Humphrey]

5. Hey Howard! What does it feel like to sell your soul to the devil?

scum floats on ponds, sucks up the oxygen for itself, and blocks the sunlight from reaching those below.

[northernsouthern]

6. Selling out is one thing...

But he had to go running his trap off about it. It was so depressing to see him go from Lean Mean Dean, the fighting machine...to lapdog in such a short time.

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8. He's neutered by big $$$$$

[northernsouthern]

18. That's just not right...I really should not respond...

But I wonder if that was covered by his health care insurance from the firm.

Sorry, I couldn't resist joke was too perfectly set up to not run with. Ok, now I stop.

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21. That took balls...lol

[Kittycat]

40. He just took it for the team...

[BlueStateLib]

10. guilt by association

Howard Dean is annoyed. He wants his own arguments to be evaluated on their merits, regardless of where he works these days. “I do work part-time for a law firm. And a law firm has clients,” he told TIME on Monday, after publishing a Wall Street Journal op-ed criticizing a key part of ObamaCare. “I dare say some of the clients think [the op-ed] is great, but I don’t write stuff because the clients like it. I write stuff because I believe it.”
http://swampland.time.com/2013/07/30/howard-dean-defends-his-work-for-lobbying-firm-after-backlash/

[Dem2]

15. Yeah, but he's not saying what the loud side wants to hear

Under the bus Dean, yes we know it's extremely crowded under there - perhaps Krugman will ask Barney to give Al Franken a shove so there will me more space.

[stevenleser]

16. Yup, a required belief system if you are going to support Sanders.

And one of the reason he is unacceptable as a candidate.

Also, by the way, Sanders can associate with anyone, he is exempt from the guilt by association thinking but no one else is.

[SHRED]

19. Not just "association"

It's what he actually writes and talks about now regarding health care.

[karynnj]

32. Dean did both good things and bad things on health care

He did try to create a role for himself as an independent activist for the public option in 2009. He created a charted that was intended to monitor where the members of Congress were and used Daily Kos and DU, among other sites, to push people to call their representatives. Here, where the idea was good, the implementation was pretty weak. There were errors that many here pointed out that went uncorrected. For instance, Olympia Snowe was listed as a yes - because she had brought up the idea of a triggered public option that would happen only if the set of options without it did not experience the cost containment wanted. In fact, she never committed even to voting for that. Overall, this was a plus.

However, when it was clear that the public option did not have 60 votes, he called for defeating any bill without it claiming it would do more harm than good. (Note how at odds this was to HRC's current position ... and note that the Independent Senator from Vermont was never in question as a yes vote and he worked, quietly in committee, to get the community health care centers funding in there.

I do not think that any of the above was because of what Dean's lobbying firm did.

Where I DO have a problem is that even on the verge of the Nuclear deal, as late as a few months before they got the deal, Dean was arguing that they were wrong to be even negotiating with Iran! This because of his lobbying (or real support) for the MEK. This really changed my opinion on Dean, even more than his willingness to advocate for killing the ACA in 2009, when we really did not yet know exactly how short our narrow window of having 60 Senator was - even as we had become aware that there were no Republican Senate votes to be had.

[TSIAS]

11. He used to represent the "Democratic Wing"

of the Party. Now he's firmly in the Establishment camp. He was never that liberal, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

I just remember how hard the Centrist Democrats (and presumably Clinton and allies) were so afraid of him in 2004.

[karynnj]

33. As Kennedy said in 2004 - HE (Kennedy) represented the Democratic wing of the Democratic party

and he was endorsing Kerry and working very hard for him in Iowa.

Since 2004, it has become increasing apparent that where Howard Dean channeled the anger of the left, while Kerry remained his diplomatic self, Kerry was the true liberal Democrat in that race.

[Else You Are Mad]

13. I am just going to post this Jimmy Dore video...

[AZ Progressive]

14. "I've got mine": attitude of the party establishment

[gordianot]

17. His only real mistake he thought he was inevitable and yelled about it.

There was a plan B and that seems to be working out well.

[Califonz]

20. I know another reason!

Bernie said he was going to ban orange hair dye!

[dooner]

22. Joe Trippi

Check out David Axelrod's blog - The Axe Files for his interview with Joe Trippi. (Dean's former campaign mgr.)
https://soundcloud.com/the-axe-files/ep-30-joe-trippi

Kinda makes you wonder who Dean EVER was... Listening to Axelrod, Trippi, Plouffe talk about the election process will burst any bubbles you might have about the process. Pretty fascinating, but depressing... and these spin-masters obviously all still have agendas.

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24. Thanks...I'll check it out

[sufrommich]

23. Are there any well known democrats left that

Sanders supporters don't despise?

[SHRED]

27. Yes

The one's who've not sold out.

[cui bono]

43. Yes. The ones who still have principles and fight for the people.

The criticism isn't arbitrary you know. I realize Hillary supporters don't like to worry about pesky little things such as issues and policy, but for Sanders supporters, that's what makes us support or not support someone.

We don't support people just because and then have no reasons to cite for that support when asked.

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[Broward]

25. Another in a long line of corporate sellouts.

[99th_Monkey]

26. It's so maddening .. Dean's always introduced as 'former Governor' or

or some such handle, rather than as "current PAID lobbyist for health care industry"

[Doctor_J]

29. Our party has become as sleazy and corrupt as the other one

Most of the blame belongs with the Clintons

[Faux pas]

30. Everytime he

opened his pie hole, I knew he was a sell-out.

[hollowdweller]

31. Dean supported Obama and got fucked.

One thing about the Clintons is they usually reward their supporters.

So I can't blame Dean. he's getting older and would like to have some sort of capstone.

[karynnj]

35. Dean was neutral in 2008 -- which he agreed to be when he took the job in early 2005

As to the Clintons, it is truer that they punish those who do not support them and that they have long memories.

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. The magnitude of that support can easily be measured in dollars. n/t

[Peregrine Took]

36. If I were him I would have gone back to Vermont, taken up doctoring again and waited for Pat

Leahy to retire - then run for the Senate.

Jeez -have some dignity!

The lure of the tv cameras was too great for him.

[bvar22]

38. It is really sad,

to see a one-time leader who was exiled by the Democratic Party for cheering too loudly,
now kneeling in gratitude to the Queen.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

39. Deani is an oligarchic sex worker. n/t

[akbacchus_BC]

41. Howard Dean! What a waste to bring him up. He is no democrat, he is establishment, will bark

up every tree that suits him. I thought he was different but after 2008, he is worthless!

[cui bono]

42. He's a sell out. A lobbyist for the health industry.

[silvershadow]

44. Howard Dean turned out to be a sell-out. His brother must be so embarrassed.