Making history isn't as important to me as is the future direction of this country.

[cherokeeprogressive]

Let's put the IWR vote on the back burner for a moment... shall we? Let's also put the failed state of Libya back there. Fuck, while we're at it... what say we pretend our government never mentioned a "red line" that shouldn't be stepped over in Syria with regard to chemical weapons.

Here at home, we have this little thing called the Death Penalty. It's something Hillary Clinton won't support abolishing in toto. Let's go from there to abortion. Abortion is an issue Hillary Clinton thinks she could compromise on. Now let's talk about the "Gold Standard" of trade agreements; The TPP. Support or not and does political expediency come into play? Fracking? Her State Department helped sell it to the world. Arms sales? The State Department became the world's largest arms dealer under her watch. The last thing I'd mention... I'll simply put out there as "digital security". Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

Hmmm.

What's more important to you? Finally, after 44 times electing a female... or electing the person who most reflects your vision of what's the most important direction for the country to be moving in?

I know where I stand, and it's not by any degree a mobile platform.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I agree, my dear cherokeeprogressive...

More important to me is my vision of the most important direction for the country to be moving in.

As with you, my vision is not a mobile platform.

I know where I stand. I am a liberal Democrat.

K&R

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. Dearest Peg... you know my feelings on a lot of things parallel yours.

It's not about social justice or the history of electing the first woman. It's about our future.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. I agree.

As far as I am concerned, the gender, the ethnicity, the religion or lack of same, none of these matter to me. I know that's heresy to many here.

What the candidate believes, and where they want to take the country, etc: those are the things that matter to me.

The future matters, and how we get there.

[Demsrule86]

2. He lost she won

End of story.

[cherokeeprogressive]

4. She hasn't won a fucking thing yet genius.

Five years a member... and a handful of posts? Just waiting for the right time?

[Mike__M]

8. No. She lost; he won

the last time she ran for anything.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Electing Sanders would be historic too

not that these identity politics warriors get it. He might be a secular Jew, but would be as historic as electing JFK was.

Pointing this out because they ignore that in the name of gender...

[riderinthestorm]

7. I'm supporting the candidate who will make climate change issues their #1 priority

Within 5 years everything else will begin to fade into obscure noise that only the 1% will have the luxury to fight over.

The rest of us will be seeing the climate disasters first hand.

We can't wait for incrementalism.

We're in the 11th hour.

[SheilaT]

9. I'd forgotten about the death penalty.

I have been known to point out that almost every other country on this planet manages without a death penalty, so what's wrong with us? And never get a response here.