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Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Goes Full Neocon at AIPAC, Demonizes Iran, Palestinians
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/22/hillary-clinton-goes-full-neocon-aipac-demonizes-iran-palestinians
I once heard Hillary Clinton give her AIPAC speech at a university. It doesnt change much, just as US policy toward the Mideast doesnt change much. She was still a senator then. Much of the audience was Middle East experts, who could barely keep themselves from gagging.
Clinton used her speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee meeting, the gathering of some of the most powerful lobbyists in Washington, to lambaste Donald Trump for saying hed try to be neutral in heading up negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. Donald Trump should be lambasted. He is wrong on everything most of every day. But, like a clock, he is right twice a day and this a point on which he is correct. The US cannot be an honest broker in the Mideast conflict if it is more Israeli than the Israelis, which it typically is. Palestinian negotiators over the years complained that theyd get an Israeli proposal, then go to the US to tweak it, and get back the same proposal from Dennis Ross or some other American partisan of Israel who had been put in a position to shape negotiations on the American side.
For Clinton to imply that Trump, by saying he wanted to be neutral in negotiations, was indicating that he would compromise on Israeli security is just dishonest. Im not sure what conventional security threats Israel has. Lebanon is weak and a mess. Syria is in complete disarray. Jordan and Egypt have peace treaties with Israel. Those are the immediate neighbors. Libya has fallen apart. Tunisia doesnt care and anyway is also small and weak. Turkey and Israel have their tensions, but do a great deal of business, including military business, with each other. Iraq is in disarray. Iran is so distant as to pose no conventional threat, and does not have nuclear weapons, which Israel does. So what is the threat to Israeli security Clinton is talking about? It is that Palestinian children might not have to live under Occupation.
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Hillary Clinton Goes Full Neocon at AIPAC, Demonizes Iran, Palestinians (Original Post)
berniepdx420
Apr 2016
OP
That's because she is a neocon. Who admires and respects Henry Kissinger. nt
silvershadow
Apr 2016
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)1. Great speech by Hillary.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)2. That's because she is a neocon. Who admires and respects Henry Kissinger. nt
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)3. I've always found it troubling how the US turns such a blind eye to the way the Palestinians are...
...treated and how much we feel the need to constantly support the RW government of Israel. This speech was just more of the same "muscular foreign policy" blather we've heard from almost every other US president except for Obama. I remember when Howard Dean was still the front runner in '04, he said we should have an even handed approach to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. You would have thought he had threatened the worst possible thing in the world the way people responded.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)4. Congress and WH are paid well to ignore Palestinians.
Israel's 'lobby' is well-funded.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)5. I know. It's disturbing
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)9. What is even more disturbing
Is that we fund the fucking lobbying by handing Israel billions a year.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)6. Anyone who thinks she has a liberal bone in her body is completely deluded
Get ready for four more years of the Bush crime family in charge
Tarc
(10,476 posts)7. I see nothing wrong here. Also, this was covered to death a month ago.
Why are we reposting?
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)8. Do you know anything about this....
Tarc
(10,476 posts)12. I am aware of the story, having commented in several of the GDP threads, yes
Why do you ask?
tritsofme
(17,380 posts)10. It was a great speech. Her defense of the Jewish state makes me very proud.