Jane Sanders Sounds Like a Republican on Sandy Hook

[RandySF]

She complains that Hillary is 'politicizing' Sandy Hook. Sure, let's not talk about it that will solve the problem. That, pray for them, and maybe talk about mental illness.

And, like Bernie did, remember to give the gun makers immunity. That will make sure there are no Sandy Hooks.

"I just don't like to see it be politicized. I think that Secretary Clinton's gun record is a lot more spotty than Bernie's," Jane Sanders, the wife of the Democratic presidential candidate, said in an interview with CNN, after the network cut away from coverage of Clinton's panel in Hartford, Connecticut, that included, among others, the daughter of the principal killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012.

The Republicans don't like seeing it politicized either. But then they don't do much to solve it. Here, though Jane Sanders strays into science fiction in absurdly claiming Bernie has a better record on gun control. Wow, where to start.

Sanders noted that her husband has, since 1988, "been consistently supportive of instant background checks, opposed to assault weapons, the sale and manufacture of assault weapons, for closing the gun show loophole, ending the strawman problem. And I think that's been since 1988."

By contrast, she remarked that when Clinton ran for Senate in New York, "she was very pro-gun control."

"When she ran for the presidency against Barack Obama, she was very anti-gun control in 2008," Sanders remarked. "And now that she's running against Bernie, she's back to for gun control."

The bottom line, Sanders said, is that both candidates agree that guns are an issue but that they disagree on the solution.

Sure. Hillary's solution is to try to solve the problem, Bernie's answer is 'not to solve it.'



http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/04/jane-sanders-sounds-like-republican-on.html

[SheenaR]

1. All of her quotes are accurate

And, like Bernie did, remember to give the gun makers immunity. That will make sure there are no Sandy Hooks.

And tell me o seer of seers, how would gun industry immunity stop Sandy Hooks from happening. That is a ridiculous statement.

[JaneyVee]

3. Because the gun industry would...

Have been forced to innovate on safety features such as smart guns, fingerprint technology, and passcodes. Also, certain sized clips could be banned. When Adam Lanza stopped to reload his clip, 17 kids escaped.

[jmg257]

7. When auto manufacturers are forced to improve safety, typically buyers appreciate those features.

Not so with guns. Most gunners want them simple and reliable.
Including police and military.

And there are 350millon + already out there.

[JaneyVee]

11. Gotta start somewhere, buddy.

[jmg257]

12. That is a good point. The drastic measures that would actually make a difference will 'never' happen

like bans on semis & detachable mags, enforceable registration, etc.

[snowy owl]

14. Gee, Sheena, next time someone runs into me, I'll sue the car maker. They've got deeper pockets...

That's your logic. Just like cars have been made safer (Thanks, Nader), guns can be made safer without suing manufacturers for people's irresponsibility. But then that understanding reflects some complex thinking and analysis doesn't it?

Also, he has always been against assault weapons in the hands of the public. That's really one better than safety locks. Or maybe it isn't?

[DrDan]

32. should Ford have been sued over the faulty design of the Pinto fuel problems?

[George II]

34. When a person gets into the driver's seat, does he aim the car at something he wants to kill?

This car/gun analogy has gotten totally ridiculous.

[JaneyVee]

2. Yeah we wouldnt want to politicize a problem that...

Only has a political solution.

[Lucinda]

4. KNR

[DeadLetterOffice]

5. Jury results

Jane Sanders Sounds Like a Republican on Sandy Hook
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511813309

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This right here makes DU suck. Hide or don't hide, this is slander against the wife of a politician just for the sake of it.

Can we PLEASE rise above such nonsense?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:50 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Disgusting blog post? Totally. Hide-worthy OP? Not so much these days.
Strongly suggest arguing with the point of view presented rather than trying to get it hidden.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not sure how talking about what she said is slander.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Political article in the primary forum. Disagree with it in thread.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If Jane is expressing her opinions in her involvement in her husband's campaign, she is fair game just as is Bill Clinton. This alert is ridiculous. She's no shrinking violet.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While I'd love to rise above such nonsense, an opinion is not "slander" and Jane Sanders is a public figure who I'm sure has heard far worse. Rebut in the comments, don't hide.

[jmg257]

6. WHat controls does Hillary want that would prevent another Sandy Hook?

Is she still interested in Autralian style gun control?

[GreatGazoo]

29. Shhhh. We aren't suppose to ask what Hillary's positions are

Just look at the nice strawman and nod.

[Duckhunter935]

35. That is sexist

We can't question her or her positions,

[jmg257]

36. Sorry - I didn't mention the sucking of her fun-circuits!

[Warren DeMontague]

8. Hillary Clinton attacked Obama as being insufficiently pro 2nd Amendment in 2008, did she not?

How is that not "spotty"?

[baldguy]

9. Because the problem was created by politics, actually solving it requires that it be politicized.

Sanders is on the wrong side of this.

[snowy owl]

15. That's because you really don't know his position: D- NRA, against asslt weapons forever; and...

don't hold small business liable for personal responsibility. Apparently, you're for asslt weapons in hands of public, think manufacturers should pay when people are at fault, and believe D- is a high-achieving grade. Well, that's pretty hard to defend against

[baldguy]

19. We have courts to determine who is liable and who isn't.

Granting blanket immunity from responsibility for their actions to an entire industry is just plain wrong. The fact that the NRA purchased Sanders' support of this for a corrupt quid pro quo should outrage the purity brigade.

[eridani]

31. As long as guns are (unfortunately) legal, immunity is just silliness

They are already liable for product defects, and if they are engaged in direct to consumer transactions, could be sued for not following background check rules.

[NurseJackie]

10. Her attitude is absolutely dreadful.

She should be ashamed.

[snowy owl]

16. This is another of those simple black and white issues, isn't it?

Nothing here to analyze or understand.

[NurseJackie]

21. I can't see her being a First Lady.

First Ladies should know better than to wade into issues like this without being prepared. Obviously she's winging it.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Obviously she's winging it.

[bahrbearian]

13. I wonder what the Yemenis Villager's think of those cluster bombs Hillary unleashed on them.

[snowy owl]

17. Honestly, i don't think her supporters extrapolate. It's gotta be simple - black and white.

[insta8er]

18. Yes because free college education cannot be done, single payer healthcare can't be done

but taking on the gun lobby we can in a heartbeat overnight...because Hilly says so.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. I agree with Jane, exploiting this issue for specifically partisan electoral politics is part of

what hinders forward movement on this set of issues in the legislative process. Making emotional ads for candidates about tragic shootings is no replacement for taking steps to prevent such tragedies. What did the partisan language get done after Sandy Hook? Nothing. So what good is that sort of rhetoric?

And she's right about Hillary in 2008. Obama called her Annie Oakley because she kept talking about shooting ducks and how much she loves guns. Her entire stance was the opposite of this year's, meaning it's not a stance it's a posture.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. 8 years ago ------Clinton touts her experience with guns

“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl. You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/

Clinton mailing attacks Obama on guns
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/05/clinton-mailing-attacks-obama-on-guns-008390

[Demsrule86]

24. That was before Sandy Hook

But a 30 dead kids didn't sway Bernie...they did give Hillary pause which is why I support her. I don't like Jane Sanders.

[jfern]

26. And when hasn't Bernie been for gun control since Sandy Hook?

Poof, there goes your side's whole argument.

[Petrushka]

27. Sec. Clinton State Department Approved Weapons Sales For Company That Made Sandy Hook Assault Rifle

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-state-department-approved-weapons-sales-company-made-sandy-hook

[Surya Gayatri]

25. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting.

[hobbit709]

28. amazing what kind of stuff flows out of Camp Weathervane.

[GreatGazoo]

30. Original headline: Jane Sanders hits Clinton for politicizing families of gun victims

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/jane-sanders-hillary-clinton-gun-violence-222276

[Squinch]

33. Sanders has become irrelevant with respect to the general election. Jane is irrelevant squared.

[stone space]

37. Jane, your husband has some fine political positions quite worthy of defense.

This is not one of them.