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George 2

(246 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:18 PM Oct 2012

Progressive political cartoonist kicks Obama in the teeth

Matt Bors is actually a friend of mine, but sometimes goes off the rails. Check this out:
http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2012/10/26/8250/


Here's my email to him. If you agree, why not let hm know. Be nice, he's one of us, just needs some loving guidance.

Matt, you obviously have never spoken to those at the receiving end of US military violence. When I was in Central America during the time of Salvadoran rightwing death squads and the contra terror war in Nicaragua, a constant refrain from those who had lost loved ones to bullets bombs and torture was, the best way you can help us is to change your government (get rid of Reagan). Even if it's the lesser of two evils, it will be better for us.

While no one likes the civilian casualties of drone strikes, how are you going to like it when President Romney starts carpet bombing Iran and there are thousands killed?

Drone strikes have been going on for Obama's entire presidency, and this week it was so necessary to make an issue of it?

The GOP pays callers to liberal talk shows to trash Obama from the left, in order to depress Obama's base vote. You've just done their work for free.

Are you auditioning for the role of leader of the circular firing squad?

Kicking Obama in the teeth when he's down, 12 days before an election, about a policy that's nearly four years old, is just plain dumb ass stupid.

You must have a strong self-sabotaging part inside, or an emerging inner right-winger, to possess you to post something like this at this time.

Again, let me emphasize, you've just never spoken to anyone on the receiving end of US military violence, or you would never have posted this.

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Progressive political cartoonist kicks Obama in the teeth (Original Post) George 2 Oct 2012 OP
You realize TDale313 Oct 2012 #1
The saddest thing about the power-drunk is that it is very probable that they fail in accomplishing patrice Oct 2012 #2
wrong limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #3
He should back off until we've eliminated the Romney threat.... scheming daemons Oct 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #7
Somebody in this thread please project what would happen in this situation under Romney. patrice Oct 2012 #4
if posted toon Nov 7? George 2 Oct 2012 #6
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #8
Well, do you mind if we go ahead and get Obama re-elected anyway? bluesbassman Oct 2012 #9

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. The saddest thing about the power-drunk is that it is very probable that they fail in accomplishing
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

their own putatively altruistic goals, because their drive toward political power causes them to refuse to recognize errors in their own very incomplete perception of what is going on around those goals.

It's also sad that if anyone points their ignorance out, you may be characterized as someone who has sold out justice for victims of things like drones in exchange for the balm of delegating one's conscience to authority, when, even though that might be a possibility, it isn't necessarily true in all instances.

So we see that we are in the same position with either the power-drunk whom we must trust to have justice for victims as their first priority over their drive toward power, and with those who have delegated some of their power to more informed authority to also have done so in the name of victims over their drive toward the comfort of displaced responsibility.

Since we are in this same position of having to trust the motives of either cohort, I choose to go with the more fully informed position, the position that has the breadth and depth of detail that makes functional decisions that work for the victims too more likely than those judgements which come from less authentically informed positions.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
3. wrong
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:47 PM
Oct 2012


http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2010/09/15/afghans-in-their-own-words/

Here’s the latest comic from my Afghanistan trip. Check back Friday for another one.

I’ve updated my archives up to this point. I did a little rearranging–all the syndicated cartoons that ran while I was overseas run first. The Afghanistan comics run after, so they can all be read in sequence. The first one is here. (Special thanks to Stephanie McMillan for coloring three of them.)

09.15.2010 | POSTED IN AFGHANISTAN TRIP, ARCHIVE, EDITORIAL CARTOONS


I just sent him a message. Said his comics are awesome. Said to ignore emails from people who would ask him to stop criticizing war.


Also bought an "Avenging Uterus" tee shirt to give for a Christmas present.


 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
5. He should back off until we've eliminated the Romney threat....
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

....or else it will get FAR worse for the people he is talking about in his cartoons.

Response to scheming daemons (Reply #5)

George 2

(246 posts)
6. if posted toon Nov 7?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:01 PM
Oct 2012

To those defending Matt, maybe something isn't clear.

I criticize Obama all the time in my podcast, including for his militaristic ways.

If this toon had been posted Nov. 7, it would be just as effective and valid a criticism, but without the negative effect of depressing the Obama base vote.

Bottom line: would a right-winger be happy to see this toon posted to thousands of progressives today? Hell yeah! The right would pay to have it posted.

Response to George 2 (Original post)

bluesbassman

(19,378 posts)
9. Well, do you mind if we go ahead and get Obama re-elected anyway?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

I'd rather not think about the alternative.

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