2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPick a number: 303, 332 or 347
Feel free to try out another one too.
I am sort of leaning 347 at this point.
But who knows, AZ may tip too.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)However, i think that flordia and north carolina could go either way
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Change has come
(2,372 posts)303 will do.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)not possible?
Okay, 332.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Time to turn this state around.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)This under-representation in polls impacts NV, FL, CO, IA, IN, VA
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)Are you saying President Obama is going to get almost all the states he got last time?
NOT happening. He is polling WAY behind 2008...At least a few states will flip this time. Indiana and North Carolina are the two most likely.
If PBO holds serve in PA and Ohio I think the election is his, but it will be close still...I'd be shocked if President BO gets over 300.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Two reasons: cell phones and Caller ID.
Too many polls are calling landlines only. Young people, who trend Obama, tend not to have landlines, or to only have computers plugged into them.
Caller ID: pollsters are getting two classes of people because of this: the elderly, who traditionally trend R, and right-wingers who like telling pollsters how conservative they are. Certainly Democrats pick up, but too many do not.
Result is a built-in GOP bias to all these polls.
The important poll is the one the government runs, and Democrats are turning out well there. We should be fine.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)If it says "unknown caller" or "Private Name and Number" the machine gets to pick up. If it has an out of state Area Code and I do not recognize the number, the machine picks up. So far, I have not answered a single robo call or survey. I would say that in 95 % of the calls, there is no message left, but in the few that do leave a message they are to remind me to mail in my absentee ballot or to invite me to a REPUBLICAN event, even though I am registered as a Democrat.
No cell phone calls from either party or a polling outfit.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I don't think it'll be any different this time. And all signs point to an Obama win, just not as much as last time.
SLCLiberal
(102 posts)That would be more like it.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ
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fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I think Obama will take this election losing both the entire south and the popular vote, but the midwest (OH, IA, WI) and southwest (NV, CO) will carry the day.
I'd love to be wrong and see FL, VA, and NC in O's column. I think we have a strong shot at all three and VA especially.
We're going to see massive fissures after this election and see extremely polarized results in the south and Appalachia. But fuck it. This is about the EC. The popular vote is window dressing.
greyl
(22,990 posts)Democratopia
(552 posts)BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)kaiden
(1,314 posts)blue-kite
(432 posts)lordcommander
(215 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Anyone can feel free to go back and look at posts I've made over the last two months and I've repeatedly used that number. The only think I'm slightly nervous about with that prediction (note I said the prediction and not the election) is Florida), so then again I could be wrong.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)***** Official Pre-Debate Electoral College Predictions Thread *****
www.democraticunderground.com/1251162857
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)other than that, your scenario is very plausible, imho.
would love for romney to fail worse than mccain. here's hoping!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)But, especially Indiana. There is no greater wedge issue, no greater single-issue vote-shift motivation than reproductive rights. This issue decides elections and impacts who votes.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)I think I'll stick with that.