2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew York is not Hillary's "home state"
I'm so tired of hearing Clinton supporters and TV news talking heads referring to New York as Hillary's home state.
She was born in Illinois.
She went to college in Massachusetts and Connecticut.
She was the First Lady of Arkansas for eight years.
She lived in Washington, D.C. for eight years.
The Clintons only moved to N.Y. after they left the White House so she could run for the U.S. Senate,
and launch her campaign for the Presidency.
(carpetbagger: a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections)
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)That's a nice quality to have ... and one I had not considered.
So thanks for pointing it out!!!
vintx
(1,748 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Apparently the cognitive dissonance runs deep among the stooges for corporate cash and dirty politics.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)She lives in NY, and was a Senator from NY.
The fact it makes some lose their collective minds is just icing on the cake.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)She's a political opportunist who got NY to pander to the Wall Street hacks.
The only "home" she will ever have in NY is with Goldman Sachs. The bank that helped wreck the Greek economy.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Maybe that will help Berne in NY.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Which is why I'm mocking this silly complaint.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)of corporate media while whining like crybababies when the dirt tactics have been exposed.
In other words, just like Hillary, nothing but a talking head filled with an arrogance of a RWer who have not yet reached Bar Mitzvah age.
I have yet to read any policy substance from a Hillarybot or any post from the same camp that hasn't been filled with republican talking points and mentality to follow. In other words, not a single sign of honesty.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You posted a bunch of middle school personal attacks .... irony, look it up.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)from day 1!
Smears you seem to be gleefully OK with.
Do you denounce the dogwhistle politics of Hillary? Do you renounce her campaigns accusations of sexism and racism in the Bernie camp? Do you denounce her using the Sandy Hook victims as a political smear campaign against Bernie? The BS poutrage over his tax returns (the same think that Hillary shouldn't give any of the transcripts from Wall Street, but Bernie to be audited up his arse)
Do you renounce her endorsement from Wall Street, oil companies, NRA lobbyists, her dirty campaign against Obama in 2008, her ties to the private prison industry and the Saudis?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... you get up much higher on that high horse and you'll get a nose bleed.
I did get a kick out of your self righteous demands for me to "renounce" things.
I've known Baptist preachers who would love your style.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)And deflect?
But your choice of words are entertaining representing the camp who has been falsely claiming victimhood when lies have been debunked.
When will you denounce the false accusations from the Hillary camp on racism and sexism?
Care to take a look in the mirror, or do you prefer to play in the moral sewer where DNC likes to keep things?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And I laugh at your faux moralizing bull shit.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)No strawmen here. Just a few pointers.
Why do you support the same tactics against Bernie as used against Obama in 2008?
Are you really that naive to think for a secund that Hillary is the one of the two who have ran a clean campaign?
Do you live so far in the bubble of DWS and the smear merchant in corporate media that you can't see straight?
It's hillariously funny how Hillary supportetrs throw dirt at Bernie and claims victimhood when being called out on it, and then act like ignorants when being confronted with it. It's almost as funny as when Hillary went insane towards a Greenpeace reporter for being a Bernie surrogate out to smear her.
And look at that! Shows that when she denies having taken money from Big Oil, she went to a fundraiser with an old oil lobbyist.
When she accused Bernie of siding with the arms manufacturers against the Sandy Hook victims, she had another fundrqaiser with a former lobbyist from NRA!
So let's talk about smear tactics and the role of media in all of this.
She has represented the merchants of death far better than Bernie has. But some people never grow up and refuse to to give up their safety blanket and insists on another four or eight years of Bill & Hillary in Office.
I wonder if you can conjure up anything remotely as dirty as Hillary and her surrogates have done from the Bernie camp. I wonder if you can find a single dirty tactics from Bernie that you need your queen to be spared for (after all, she's a woman, and calling her out on anything is sexist...
I also wonder if the 120 000 attempted voters purged will be counted in this primary.
LexVegas
(6,094 posts)Don't you love it when they don't think their arguments through all the way?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)with overwhelming majorities to the Senate from here.
She's been a New Yorker 15 years longer than Sanders has been a Democrat.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Or else your post would look kinda foolish.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Sorry kiddies.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)question everything
(47,534 posts)Is Illinois Obama's?
Real pathetic how people here are trying to find anything to smear Clinton.
You know, it is spring in many parts of the country. And, I am sure there are plenty of books that you'd like to read (you do, right?) so why not take time off from this site until... well, tomorrow?
Or until after the California primaries?
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)to consider New York her home. Sorry if you don't like it, but you don't get to decide where her home is.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)in the upper echelons in society.
Never been racially profiled (though she has been using the dog whistle as well as bait to demonize her opponent for political gain)
Never been harassed by cops, never had to worry about whether she will have a home or a job, or food or medicines next week) Yet still she claims to resonate better with poor, minority working families who have at least one member of the family falling victim of Bill's mass incarceration "solution".
She has lived a very privileged life far from the struggles of average people. Never have she seen the bombs she and her dept. sent to blow up Syria and Libya. Never will she be forced to drink unfiltered water, risking dysenthery like the victims of her husbands' sanctions against the people of Iraq did in the 90s, resulting in a half a million deaths.
Never has she or will she have to worry about the next meal.
And the 150 million $ she took from Wall Street was from "hard work", unlike Bernie who has been feeding himself from the public trough being corrupted like the rest of them (unlike Hillary who would never let 150 million dollars influence her relations to business and finance and will off course push for policies AGAINST her donors on behalf of the voters and union workers)...
If she calls New York home, then she shouldn't call Illinois or Arkansas the same.
I guess if you are rich and powerful you are above the law. If you are black or latino, you risk losing everything you have even if you are innocent.
I suspect that Hillary like so many of her colleagues suffer from Affluenza and lack of real human emotions.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)n/t
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)is where you cash those checks..
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)sounds like it
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)It's reaching so hard to make a thing out of something just to add to the overall wall of crap that keeps getting built.
The Bullshit Mountain is being built once more.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Hillary is a resident of NY, Sanders isn't
"Home state" means different things to different people.
One person was born in NY and left the state at 18 (as soon as he could) and has been lived in Vermont for 50+ years.
The other person voluntarily became a resident of NY in early 2001 and has lived there ever since and served as the state's Senator for 6 years.
Which person has greater claim to to the State of New York; which one can call the state "home"?
I have my opinion, but who the hell cares?
There real question is: Who will win NY?
Hillary Clinton
Zynx
(21,328 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Yeah, the real issues like; Does she cheat at dominoes? Is NY her home state?
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Recalling visits as a child.
Guess she's waiting until after NY to avoid confusion for those paying attention.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Whereever a corporate donation is at hand...
jmousso75
(71 posts)Thank you for the post. I am so sick of hearing this crap. All points correct!
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Born in, raised, in and spent 58 years in NY. Far more than Hillary can say. Lived in Florida for the past 9 years (now moving back). I count New York, as my home, where my roots are, where my children and grandchildren are. I know Floridians would hate me for saying this but one cannot erase all those decades, or change the place of your birth. I am not a Floridian simply because I hang my hat here.
Hillary. New Yorker? Because this is where she hangs her hat? No. (Despicable) Donald Trump? Unfortunately, Yes, a New Yorker.
oasis
(49,407 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)not that anyone cares...
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)She is ours.