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Pretty sure Bernie just unofficially conceded NY... (Original Post) Godhumor Apr 2016 OP
This is the guy that has been boasting all week that "I was born in New York". George II Apr 2016 #1
I was born in NY too and left after Bernie. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #4
Funny thing, as much as he rubs that "I was born in NY" thing in, it turns out that.... George II Apr 2016 #18
I left in 1970 as a kid so my ties are more recent, lol. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #22
Yes, by two years (he left for good in 1968) I left NYC proper in 1984 to move to Yonkers... George II Apr 2016 #48
Carpetbag and all! Human101948 Apr 2016 #32
Kind of like Sanders is using the Democratic Party? George II Apr 2016 #50
yes, moving there to inherit a senate seat is the same as growing up there for one's entire youth JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #53
another way to say it... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #147
Jane Sanders was also raised there, in Brooklyn. New York. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #71
She lived there even less than Sanders did. George II Apr 2016 #75
So what, where you're brought up matters. I left my home state for college appalachiablue Apr 2016 #79
I don't care, but Sanders has been using it as a talking point when campaigning in New York. George II Apr 2016 #98
As he should and for good reason. Bernie's parents were also from there & his brother Larry. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #99
I went to High School with David Axelrod and Eric Holder, and many many celebrities.... George II Apr 2016 #106
Terrific, that's really special and good for you. How were Axelrod & Holder? appalachiablue Apr 2016 #109
Obviously I didn't know them back then, a large school, and of course we didn't know back then.... George II Apr 2016 #118
I understand, have met many political figures too. Dr. Sharon Malone, Holders's appalachiablue Apr 2016 #126
OK. So he's going to lose his home state tomorrow Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #142
It's not a fucking talking point. It's true. pangaia Apr 2016 #128
Hillary didn't, doesn't live in New York. pangaia Apr 2016 #127
In case you didn't know, Chappaqua (Westchester County) in in New York.... George II Apr 2016 #135
I know exactly where Westchester is. pangaia Apr 2016 #145
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2016 #164
It is in New York George II Apr 2016 #165
You don't get it..... pangaia Apr 2016 #167
because it makes no sense SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #169
A statement of fact, not a boast. panader0 Apr 2016 #44
Have you seen him make that "statement of fact" at any of his rallies? Boasting. George II Apr 2016 #51
Being BORN in NY doesn't give you cred...moving BACK does brooklynite Apr 2016 #83
Precisely - as the song goes, "if I can make it there I can make it anywhere". Says quite a bit. George II Apr 2016 #89
And I supposed Hillary never mentioned being born in Illinois while she was campaigning there? thesquanderer Apr 2016 #134
Bernie is a genuine New Yorker... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #151
Curious to hear his justification for continuing after tomorrow. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #2
She won't get all the delegates, either. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #55
they will split the delegstes restorefreedom Apr 2016 #66
Absolutely, All the Way. There's Calif., Oregon and more to go. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #74
this is the same desperate meme restorefreedom Apr 2016 #77
Totally obvious, repetitive and pushing wishful thinking to elevate a poor candidate appalachiablue Apr 2016 #82
yup. if it wasnt corrupt and infuriating, it would be sad. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #96
Under 200? Not quite. It's 210. George II Apr 2016 #94
194. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #105
Not 194 Corporate666 Apr 2016 #149
Wrong, it's 194... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #161
what chance does he have left? Corporate666 Apr 2016 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author Godhumor Apr 2016 #3
Thank god he's gone. Only parachuted back here to chase votes. Hope he doesn't return nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5
.. frylock Apr 2016 #80
Clinton's national headquarters is in New York Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #6
Clinton wouldn't be planning a rally in Times Square unless she was very confident. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #8
I do think she is feeling confident Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #14
Sanders has been dropping some pretty broad hints--talking about this being a "tough primary" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
Indeed. 27 instances where BS/campaign stated the would, could or must win in NY Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #143
Where do you see reports of a rally in Times Square? Is there a permit? Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #29
It isn't? George II Apr 2016 #10
No, not in a while. He wasn't in Washington or Wisconsin or Michigan for example n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #21
Also, NYC is probably the only place where Hillary can produce a decent sized crowd. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #11
do you think he'll win tomorrow? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
She also gets good crowds at polling places mythology Apr 2016 #33
Bernie has won seven straight....Hillary hasn't had much success lately. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #65
the answer Corporate666 Apr 2016 #150
he just needs to win.....a loss in the state that elected her twice will pop Hillary's bubble. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #154
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #107
If he thought he could win NY, he would be sticking around Godhumor Apr 2016 #15
Nope. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #57
Of course she's expecting it. notadmblnd Apr 2016 #85
How were Democratic voter rolls purged? Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #108
Have you LOOKED at what went on in Arizona? PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #157
Yes but that does not show me Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #159
We're seeing the same thing echo in NY AND CA. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #160
Of course I have heard of voting issues Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #163
Why would he leave the night before the primary? DesertRat Apr 2016 #7
Why was he in Wyoming on the eve of his victory in Wisconsin? virtualobserver Apr 2016 #13
Shhhhh. Don't disturb their victory dream bubble passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #84
Thank You! This Is A Consistent Approach corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #93
I don't think Truman was in New York when Dewey won either. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #119
He left Michigan as well. Lots of states to win out there. nt Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #24
Bernie flies across three time zones in a day to attend events; handles it just fine. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #78
Hillary rides across 3 county lines in a day to attend fundraisers. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #120
He has until Midnight to get his taxes done and released Sheepshank Apr 2016 #111
That makes sense DesertRat Apr 2016 #116
And it from a Sanders source. Twitter. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #9
Not from Facebook which aged Hillary fans use... Human101948 Apr 2016 #37
Shows you how old I am. I thought Facebook was a hipsters game. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #153
would so love to see NYC MFM008 Apr 2016 #12
Wow.. that means they are expecting a big loss. DCBob Apr 2016 #16
no Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #28
I think so. DCBob Apr 2016 #38
did he give up on Wisconsin? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #40
This is different... this is New York. DCBob Apr 2016 #43
doesn't matter Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #45
He's likely trying to get a jump on PA. He can always catch a train back. nm floriduck Apr 2016 #47
Bernie's very energetic & agile, can handle the pace well. And is in great shape. Play Ball! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #88
Remember when Bernie left Michigan and gave a victory speech... Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #19
What? You mean there are five more primaries next week? winter is coming Apr 2016 #25
He often leaves states the day before, even those he is favored in. Punkingal Apr 2016 #23
Combined with Hillary planning a very public party Godhumor Apr 2016 #26
It is over for him. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #27
Bernie has had a rally planned at Penn State for awhile now NWCorona Apr 2016 #30
Sure, in the evening. He's leaving the vital state of NY less than ten hours before polls open Godhumor Apr 2016 #34
As he's done in the past. NWCorona Apr 2016 #39
THE HORROR!!!!! YOU MEAN HE whistler162 Apr 2016 #31
If she wins NY like Arizona, she can kiss sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #35
I figure his campaign probably feels that at this point in the NY race Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #36
He's not planning to interfere with the voting... k8conant Apr 2016 #41
Really, a party in Times Square? kstewart33 Apr 2016 #42
OMG Mike__M Apr 2016 #46
Gate implies scandal. This implies he had no more reason to stick around NY Godhumor Apr 2016 #49
Which is actually a good commentary on the entire primary race up until now. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #54
See you tomorrow night, Joe! N/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #56
She does because thousands are being disenfranchised...court action....enough. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #62
And if that were really true, he'd be sticking around to help fight n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #63
She will probably win ny, but I sure would love to see that block party ruined. Punkingal Apr 2016 #121
Fair enough n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #125
Who is Matt McDermott and why should I give a shit what he says? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #52
He's not even going to stick around and thank his supporters? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #58
I bet he's not going to tweet his thanks beedle Apr 2016 #138
He's at a rally in Long Island. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #59
And then leaving the state n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #61
Where on Long Island? democrattotheend Apr 2016 #64
Bernie Sanders supporters packed a Queens park on Monday night w4rma Apr 2016 #60
she was a popular senator from NY. getting this state was a pipe dream. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #67
Why hello there! Godhumor Apr 2016 #69
I post. just rarely in GDP (well i posted a bunch here today, but i stay away from GDP) La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #72
Which Matt McDermott - the actor or the real estate agent? I have no idea who he is, so I googled. jillan Apr 2016 #68
Start spreading the news, I'm leaving tomorrow. DCBob Apr 2016 #70
LOL Lucinda Apr 2016 #155
So much for that big win he was supposed to pull off KingFlorez Apr 2016 #73
People here said the same thing about Hillary... SpareribSP Apr 2016 #76
+1 Jon Ace Apr 2016 #87
This is a ridiculous assertion... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #81
Sanders admitted that he was not going to win NY when he left to go to Rome Gothmog Apr 2016 #86
...ans did his campaign strategist brooklynite Apr 2016 #90
Usually he's not in a state on election day jfern Apr 2016 #91
Bernie has almost always been in the next state on primary night PAProgressive28 Apr 2016 #92
Considering Sanders has an event in PA in the morning - I'm not surprised. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #95
Feel it...mighty math will always vanquish! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #97
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #100
Until the money runs out, Sanders isn't going anywhere. He's in full messiah-mode now. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #101
. RandySF Apr 2016 #102
This was announced days ago SheenaR Apr 2016 #103
Just like how he "unofficially conceded" Michigan when he left the night before -oh wait Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #104
Indies can't vote hee hee Gomez163 Apr 2016 #110
Ha ha. It's hilarious. Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 Apr 2016 #115
Woohoo! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #112
I'm sooo happy HRC will win NY! Iliyah Apr 2016 #113
The internals must be HORRIBLE! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #117
To the thread, not to Godhumor specifically. kenn3d Apr 2016 #122
She only needs 2026 to win the majority of the pledged delegates. There are also 700+ supers pnwmom Apr 2016 #166
Born in NY, Raised in ILL Whimsey Apr 2016 #123
"Men will not do anything for women voluntarily." Kentonio Apr 2016 #152
Is NY now the "Deep South" too? Guess he'll just add it to the list either way Number23 Apr 2016 #124
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #129
Hey, if that's how far down the rabbit hole you've sunk, more power to you n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #130
lol. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #136
L Lion --- I met you at a Kerry Meet Up in the Village a long time ago! dinkytron Apr 2016 #137
. berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #131
Let's talk tomorrow night n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #132
Sure... you think hillary is gonna win NYC.. probably Manhattan but the other burroughs .. don't berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #133
Oh, looks like we're not talking tomorrow night, after all Godhumor Apr 2016 #139
LOL.. flagged for review. DCBob Apr 2016 #162
Grow up Seventies Whimsey Apr 2016 #140
Oh what bullshit - don't put the Veuve Cliquot on ice just yet eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #141
Pretty sure Godhumor just made shit up. Aerows Apr 2016 #144
The only thing Hillaroids can do is make shit up. FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #158
Get along! Whimsey Apr 2016 #146
Here's hoping for a good win in New York .... LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #156
He's walking the streets of NYC right now ornotna Apr 2016 #168

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Funny thing, as much as he rubs that "I was born in NY" thing in, it turns out that....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

....he hasn't lived there since 1968 and Hillary Clinton has lived in New York almost as long as he did.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Yes, by two years (he left for good in 1968) I left NYC proper in 1984 to move to Yonkers...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

....which might as well be NYC, then lived in White Plains (ditto) from 1985 to 1988.

I now live about 90 minutes northeast of Manhattan, we get down there often.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
32. Carpetbag and all!
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah Hillary! A convenietn stepping stone to the White House. Though there is a tradition to uphold.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. Kind of like Sanders is using the Democratic Party?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton has been living in New York for about 16 years.

I can remember campaigning for Bobby Kennedy for Senator in New York. He got a lot of grief for being a carpetbagger, too, but he was a great New York Senator (a hell of a lot better than Al D'Amato or Jim Buckley!)

Corporate666

(587 posts)
147. another way to say it...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:50 AM
Apr 2016

would be that Sanders had no choice in being from NY. And as soon as he was old enough to have a choice, he got the F out of there. That shows his allegiance to NY.

Hillary could have gone anywhere in the world. She chose to make NY her home. That shows her allegiance to NY.


Tomorrow the people of NY will show *their* allegiance. Apparently Sanders knows he's about to get ravaged by the voters, as he's already skipped out of "his home town" while Hillary has decided to stay and hang out. Which also shows the candidates' allegiance to the state.

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
79. So what, where you're brought up matters. I left my home state for college
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

and it was my sole, solid foundation for life, like with many people. The ties remain, nothing can erase experiences, especially the early formative ones.

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
99. As he should and for good reason. Bernie's parents were also from there & his brother Larry.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

BROOKLYN, NEW YORK, Senator Bernie Sanders and James Madison High School



James Madison High School Alumni Association Wall of Distinction 2008 Honorees: Sid Ganis '57; Paul Krinsky '46; Robert Hasselkorn '52; Bernie Sanders '59 -

~ "The Fact That You Grow Up In Brooklyn, You Can Pretty Much Face Anything" ~

BROOKLYN SCHOOL BOASTS FAMOUS GRADUATES IN WASHINGTON, by Helena Andrews, Politico, Jan. 21, 2007.

BROOKLYN, N.Y. -- In every high school there are reliable main characters: the cheerleader, the jock, the outsider and, naturally, the valedictorian. But Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a twirler? Sen. Bernie Sanders, a track superstar? And Sen. Norm Coleman, a Vietnam protester? All three along with "head of the class" Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., attended James Madison High School in Brooklyn. Madison is most likely the only alma mater that can boast three sitting U.S. senators -- a Republican, a Democrat and an Independent, along with a Supreme Court justice -- in the pages of its yearbook.

"When Ruth Bader Ginsburg was at Madison -- of course, you're quite familiar with the look that she cultivates -- would you believe that she was cheerleader?" said Steve Slavin, a 1959 Madison graduate, referring to the now-bookish-looking Supreme Court justice. Sandy Roche, class of 1950, couldn't believe it. That is, until she cracked the spine of her old yearbook. "It says she was twirler, so I guess she was a cheerleader. Oh my goodness," said Roche who knew Ginsburg, also class of 1950, by her nickname, Kiki. Roche and others from her time remembered Ginsburg as "very popular and attractive."

Slavin, who ran track with Rep. Sanders, I-Vt. -- "one of the best runners in the city" -- shared a story he thought spoke to the character of the self-declared socialist even then. In those days when two runners from one school competed, they would almost always finish together. "Bernie had already won a few races, and this other guy had never won a race in his life," Slavin explained. "So the two of them were finishing together, and Bernie just pushed him ahead and let him finish first. "I mean, that's the kind of guy he was," said Slavin, now an economist who still lives in Brooklyn. "Never boastful, and he had a lot to boast about." The two were even roommates at Brooklyn College, "living hand-to-mouth on a lot of meatballs and spaghetti," according to Slavin. (Sanders later transferred to the University of Chicago, where he earned his B.A. in 1964.)

Madison honors notable alums every year; the list includes several authors, Nobel laureates, Rhodes scholars, opera singers and, of course, Washington's political elite. Founded in 1925, Madison was one of the first large public high schools in the borough, located on historic Bedford Avenue, which runs through Brooklyn from Greenpoint to Sheepshead Bay. And like any New Yorker, most Madison alums had an opinion on why the school turns out so many big names -- street smarts. "It really gave them an advantage and ability to deal with the real world," said 1953 graduate Dick Kossoff, chairman of Madison's "Wall of Distinction." Gogliormella's take on it: "The fact that if you grow up in Brooklyn, you can pretty much face anything." Roche agreed that being "from the neighborhood" made the difference. "It was an immigrant neighborhood," she said. "I think every family felt this was their opportunity. I think for most of us growing up, working hard in school was the most important thing you could do."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2007/01/brooklyn-school-boasts-famous-graduates-in-washington-002377

James Madison High School Alumni Association, THE WALL OF DISTINCTION, http://www.jamesmadisonalumni.org/wall.html







~ Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Supreme Court Justice



~Chris Rock, Comedian, Actor

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280163788

George II

(67,782 posts)
106. I went to High School with David Axelrod and Eric Holder, and many many celebrities....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

....and accomplished people.

I also went to college (he was in my home room class) with a Nobel Prize winner.

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
109. Terrific, that's really special and good for you. How were Axelrod & Holder?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

Studious, average, fun..?

George II

(67,782 posts)
118. Obviously I didn't know them back then, a large school, and of course we didn't know back then....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

....that they'd ever be famous. But it makes for good bragging points at a cocktail party!

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
126. I understand, have met many political figures too. Dr. Sharon Malone, Holders's
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

wife I've met; she was my sister's doctor for a while. Smart, elegant woman to be sure.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
127. Hillary didn't, doesn't live in New York.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

She lives in fucking mansion in Westchester.
Actually she just leaves her carpet bag there.

George II

(67,782 posts)
135. In case you didn't know, Chappaqua (Westchester County) in in New York....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

...Burlington is in Vermont.

Response to pangaia (Reply #145)

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
169. because it makes no sense
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

You guys need to decide if you really think Bernie is a super-hero or the reincarnation of St Francis of Assisi.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
134. And I supposed Hillary never mentioned being born in Illinois while she was campaigning there?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:32 PM
Apr 2016

And really, Illinois doesn't ooze out of Hillary the way Brooklyn oozes out of Bernie. I guess it's one of those things, you can take the guy out of Brooklyn, but you can't take the brooklyn out of the guy...

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
151. Bernie is a genuine New Yorker...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:24 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary is the new kid in town who lived there for 6 months before running for Senate to represent Wall Street.

Anyone who thinks that Hillary has closer ties to NY than Bernie just because she took Wall Street money is either dishonest or just blind...

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
2. Curious to hear his justification for continuing after tomorrow.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

He hasn't had a realistic path to the nomination since March 15. If he doesn't realize it's all over after tomorrow, I'm not sure he ever will.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
55. She won't get all the delegates, either.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

And he has support and money.

What's her justification for continuing knowing 30 percent of Dems won't support her and hardly any Independents will vote for her in the general election?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
66. they will split the delegstes
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:56 PM
Apr 2016

he has already reduced her pd lead to under 200. we still have ca or and a number of states left.

he has plenty of money and promised his supporters he will fight till the convention.

fortunately, he does not need to justify to you or anyone else why he stays in. it is his right and his choice.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
77. this is the same desperate meme
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:07 PM
Apr 2016

that was tried on march 1 march 15, and other important voting days. the longer bernie stays in the more delegates he gets and the more obvious it becomes that the corrupt estsblishment is propping a losing candidate.

they want him out so ms inevitable does not have to look so weak in comparison.

not gonna happen

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
82. Totally obvious, repetitive and pushing wishful thinking to elevate a poor candidate
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

who has been declining steadily in favorability for good reason for months.

George II

(67,782 posts)
94. Under 200? Not quite. It's 210.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml

And yes, tomorrow they will split the delegates, roughly 139-108. Up to 40+ lead, and next Tuesday that will increase to about 70.

But increasing the lead isn't as important and the fact that as each week passes there are less delegates available for him to win to close the lead.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
149. Not 194
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:58 AM
Apr 2016

that number was based on a misunderstanding of a 6 point difference and someone took 6 from HRC and gave 6 to Bernie, which would be a 12 point difference.

The real number is 202 or 206, depending on the source you believe. But it's not 194.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
148. what chance does he have left?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:56 AM
Apr 2016

The lead is not under 200 (that was an error based on giving both of them a 6 point differential when it was 6 between them). It's 202 or 206, depending on the number you believe.

15% of ALL remaining delegates are up for grabs tomorrow. A further 25% of ALL remaining delegates are being won a week from today - and Sanders is down by double digits in 3 of those races.

A week from now he will be down 250-300 delegates with 1,000 delegates left on the table. The only 2 big states (which make up 70% of all remaining delegates after next week) are NJ and CA. He's way (WAY) down in NJ. But even if he ties here in NJ... that means he needs to beat her by about 40% in California to get the nomination.

Except he's trailing in California. Beating her in CA by 70 to 30 is just not realistic. It's just not going to happen.

If he loses tomorrow, he's toast. Well, he's already been toast, but he will be undeniably toast.

Response to Godhumor (Original post)

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. Clinton's national headquarters is in New York
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

Yes she hopes to win and use that win as the basis to announce that the race is essentially over. Even if Bernie wins NY however he can not rest. There are a slew of contests next Tuesday - he has to keep doing fairly well next week also to keep hope alive. So he will be in moving on to campaign, he's done that on election night every time in recent weeks.

They are both simply doing what it makes sense for them to do.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Clinton wouldn't be planning a rally in Times Square unless she was very confident.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

Unusually confident.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
14. I do think she is feeling confident
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

However Sanders does not show that he is conceding New York through his actions. I believe Clinton thinks she can count on at lest a narrow win, and she will use Any win by Any margin to try to slam the door on Sanders in a very public way.

But we will all know soon enough. This year has had more than its share of surprises already

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Sanders has been dropping some pretty broad hints--talking about this being a "tough primary"
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

and how he doesn't need to win here.

Sanders people really played this primary up a couple of weeks ago, hyped it.

Maybe not a good move.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
29. Where do you see reports of a rally in Times Square? Is there a permit?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

What I read said 'a primary party in Times Square'. That means big shin dig for campaign folks. Since when do they do rallies in Times Square at all?

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. It isn't?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

He's stayed in some states on primary night, but those were states that he wound up winning.

Funny how that works.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. Also, NYC is probably the only place where Hillary can produce a decent sized crowd.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie can do it anywhere.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
150. the answer
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:32 AM
Apr 2016

about whether the last 7 represent a sea change in the fortunes of Sanders or just were several demographically-friendly states in a row will be answered tomorrow.

I think most agree what the answer will be. But Sanders needs it to be a blow-out in his favor.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
154. he just needs to win.....a loss in the state that elected her twice will pop Hillary's bubble.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:12 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:11 AM - Edit history (1)

Response to virtualobserver (Reply #11)

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
15. If he thought he could win NY, he would be sticking around
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

You don't leave the second biggest delegate total state the night before the primary, especially when, if you won it, it means you have completely overturned the establishment apple cart.

Hillary is planning a party, in Times Square no less, because she expects a big margin of victory even before voting happens. Sanders is moving on for exactly the same reason.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
57. Nope.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

Unlike the Clintons, he doesn't feel the need to bug the shit out of working people trying to vote and leave.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
85. Of course she's expecting it.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

It's easy to expect a win after the Democratic voter rolls have been conveniently purged of those who may not support her.


It's just amazing how every single fuckup (and this year seems to be a record year) benefits HRC.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
108. How were Democratic voter rolls purged?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

By whom? And how did they know which voters would vote for Bernie? Do you have a link?

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
157. Have you LOOKED at what went on in Arizona?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:42 AM
Apr 2016

With the voter irregularities? Granted I'm NOT blaming Clinton, likely Republicans but shit like this could bite her ass in the general and she doesn't seem to care. That's damning.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
159. Yes but that does not show me
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:53 AM
Apr 2016

how voter rolls were supposedly purged in New York, and specifically of Bernie supporters.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
160. We're seeing the same thing echo in NY AND CA.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

You haven't seen the links being shared around about checking to make sure your registration is correct so you can vote in the primaries in NY and CA?
I heard one person call up Thom from CA talking about being a registered Dem. for YEARS upon YEARS only to find their status was changed to Independent and I keep hearing you can find many others. Hillary should be fighting this bs tool and nail but last I heard she was late to the table on the Arizona case ffs. She came in AFTER Sanders.
Taking advantage of ruling Republicans who may have done this to get her the nomination or as a test run for the election...she's putting herself at extreme risk if she gets the nom. for not reacting soon enough to these problems.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
163. Of course I have heard of voting issues
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

I'm not a blithering idiot. It is clear that some Independents tried to vote in some of these places. It is also clear, that some legitimate Democratic voters were not registered, either due to negligence, or to GOP shenanigans.

What is NOT clear, is how Hillary supposedly managed to get these states to specifically target Bernie supporters. Because that is the charge coming from Bernie supporters. I want proof. And some kind of logical explanation of how the hell they could possibly identify Bernie supporters from among Democratic primary voters. Otherwise this is just another smear against Hillary. I'm very tired of the innuendos and conspiracy theories.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
84. Shhhhh. Don't disturb their victory dream bubble
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:15 PM
Apr 2016

I hope to see it popped tomorrow. If not, I know Bernie is still in the fight and fighting to win.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
93. Thank You! This Is A Consistent Approach
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

What we should read into it is that there's nothing more to do in New York but many other states remain to be won.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
111. He has until Midnight to get his taxes done and released
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

I'm told this is why it hasn't all been released yet.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
38. I think so.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:10 PM
Apr 2016

He is even leaving early before the polls open. Why wouldn't he be out and about shaking hands and kissing babies?

He's given up on NY.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
43. This is different... this is New York.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

Its huge.. if he loses big here its pretty much over... if he wins here.. its game on.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
19. Remember when Bernie left Michigan and gave a victory speech...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

...from the parking lot of the hotel in the next state he was campaigning in?

I do.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
23. He often leaves states the day before, even those he is favored in.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

I really don't think it has any meaning. (Not saying that because i'm a Bernie supporter.)

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
26. Combined with Hillary planning a very public party
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:00 PM
Apr 2016

I think it does have meaning. Quite a bit, actually.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
30. Bernie has had a rally planned at Penn State for awhile now
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

I was actually going to fly out to NY just to be there for election night but I found out that he wouldn't be in town.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
34. Sure, in the evening. He's leaving the vital state of NY less than ten hours before polls open
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

He's moving on.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
31. THE HORROR!!!!! YOU MEAN HE
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

moved onto the next goal/state instead of waiting around. THE HORROR!!!!

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
35. If she wins NY like Arizona, she can kiss
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

the GE good night.

And don't tell me about her suing AZ, that is
just bs, because going in after the fact does
not do anything to change the results.

It is just a phony move, because that state
will be red in the GE, and
everyone knows that.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
36. I figure his campaign probably feels that at this point in the NY race
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

There isn't much left to do.
He is either going to win it or lose it.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
49. Gate implies scandal. This implies he had no more reason to stick around NY
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

Again, look at both actions:

Bernie is leaving ten hours before polls open in the critical state of NY that will lay out whether he can make a real go of it in the final months. If the race was close he'd be working NY up to the last minute before an evening in PA.

Hillary is planning a block party in the most famous block of the country ten hours before polls open, and is getting ready for a very public celebration.

He doesn't expect to win tomorrow. She does.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
54. Which is actually a good commentary on the entire primary race up until now.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

Keep taking shit for granted Hills.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
62. She does because thousands are being disenfranchised...court action....enough.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:37 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton is too confident of her win just as she has been before. She knows what is happening all over this country. That is my take.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. Who is Matt McDermott and why should I give a shit what he says?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

Oh - some nobody Clinton supporter.


BTW, Bernie has traditionally moved onto the next state the day of another's primary. He was asleep and had to be woken to told he won Michigan. Please check patterns before posting some regular dude's ramblings.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
64. Where on Long Island?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

How come I didn't know about this? I will be bummed if I missed a chance to see him.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
60. Bernie Sanders supporters packed a Queens park on Monday night
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders supporters packed a Queens park on Monday night for the Democratic presidential candidate's final New York City rally before Tuesday's primary.

"You all look beautiful, and you all look like you want a political revolution," Sanders said to a cheering crowd at Hunter's Point South Park along Long Island City's waterfront.

http://www.amny.com/news/elections/bernie-sanders-rallies-at-lic-s-hunter-s-point-south-park-tv-on-the-radio-performs-1.11705131

jillan

(39,451 posts)
68. Which Matt McDermott - the actor or the real estate agent? I have no idea who he is, so I googled.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
Apr 2016

And that is what I came up with.

Trying to figure out why I should care what he said?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
70. Start spreading the news, I'm leaving tomorrow.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
Apr 2016
Start spreading the news, I'm leaving tomorrow.
I can't to be a part of it, New York, New York.
These vagabond shoes, are longing to stray
Right from the very heart of it, New York, New York!


KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
73. So much for that big win he was supposed to pull off
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

Internals must look really awful if he's leaving his "birth state" before the primary.

SpareribSP

(325 posts)
76. People here said the same thing about Hillary...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:07 PM
Apr 2016

When she moved from her victory address from state to state and finally settled in Florida. Clearly she was going to lose and was conceding...

You're making the exact same mistake Sander's supporters made then. The final say is going to be from the voters. It's just a day away now, we can wait!

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
81. This is a ridiculous assertion...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

Voting starts tomorrow morning and doing another rally or other campaign event tonight isn't going to do anything to affect the outcome (that goes for hill too).

Might as well get to work on Maryland, Penn, etc

jfern

(5,204 posts)
91. Usually he's not in a state on election day
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

And I don't think he even visited Alaska. Did that mean he super conceded Alaska?

PAProgressive28

(270 posts)
92. Bernie has almost always been in the next state on primary night
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

He was in Florida when he won Michigan. He was in Wisconsin when he won Washington. He was in Wyoming when he won Wisconsin. There are probably other examples. This is nothing new.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
95. Considering Sanders has an event in PA in the morning - I'm not surprised.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

His events in Pennsylvania have been scheduled for quite a while. In the past, he has been notified of his wins typically when he is making a speech at a campaign rally - so I seriously doubt anyone should be reading anything into his departure - no matter what Matt McDermott would like you to read in his tea leaves. As a Clintonite I don't expect him to "see" anything different.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
104. Just like how he "unofficially conceded" Michigan when he left the night before -oh wait
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:08 PM
Apr 2016

He won Michigan.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
114. Ha ha. It's hilarious.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

That we as a party are squelching the deciding voters of every General election by omitting them from our primary. We have the opportunity to build our party at greater levels than ever before, yet somehow you are downright giddy in our exclusion of a broader, more progressive base. When 75% of independents(out of 44% of the electorate) favor a candidate, the party does everything it can to keep him from getting the nomination for the interest of money.

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kenn3d

(486 posts)
122. To the thread, not to Godhumor specifically.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

Nobody here really knows what will happen in the primary tomorrow. But if it gives you comfort or adds to your confidence about the future of the country to proclaim a big (as yet un-won) victory for Hillary, so be it. No matter how she does in New York however, her chances of winning the 2,383 pledged delegates needed to clinch the nomination before July will be pretty much the same, ie not likely. Of course it's not likely that Bernie will either, but the delegate gap has narrowed significantly and may narrow further by June.

Despite everything that has happened so far this primary season, including the 6 recent consecutive landslide losses and just 1 win for her in the past month, some of you still insist on not only underestimating but even mocking Sanders. If you are among those who do this, please just understand that Bernie Sanders will be campaigning and running in every state caucus and primary election all the way to the convention.

Unlike all the predictions made above, that certainly will happen.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
166. She only needs 2026 to win the majority of the pledged delegates. There are also 700+ supers
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016

and she already enjoys the support of a vast majority of them.

When she gets to the majority of pledged delegates, there is no question that the supers will have her back.

The only reason to prolong the campaign past the point when she has 2026 when is to give aid and comfort to the enemy, who want our battle prolonged as long as possible.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
123. Born in NY, Raised in ILL
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:15 PM
Apr 2016

Go Hillary! Sent two daughters to NYU! Go Hillary!

Men will not do anything for women voluntarily. Economic equality does not equal sexual equality, as anyone who has studied history can tell you. Women need to quit buying into "us men will lift you" mentality. Didn't work when I was in college and law school in the seventies, does not work now.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
152. "Men will not do anything for women voluntarily."
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:40 AM
Apr 2016

Erm excuse me? Would you like to make any more incredibly sweeping and unpleasant comments while you're at it?

If you want to see a world where women are not treated in a certain way purely as a result of their gender, then maybe you could try and avoid doing exactly that yourself.

Response to Godhumor (Original post)

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
133. Sure... you think hillary is gonna win NYC.. probably Manhattan but the other burroughs .. don't
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

think so.. too young, too liberal, too jewish, to latina, to asian.. and a good slice of hillary's support from 2008 has passed on.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
139. Oh, looks like we're not talking tomorrow night, after all
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:59 PM
Apr 2016

We'll talk if you're still around after your review.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
140. Grow up Seventies
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:06 AM
Apr 2016

Grew up in the seventies when women reached for equality on their abilities, not on someone's coattails. Worked for me, but I was above average. I was in the top math class for four years in high school (ten hours college credit) and it was not until 2014 at my 40th high school reunion I found out there was a math club at the school who took the nationals. My classmate's comment to me was - you were on it right? (I was the only female who stayed in the class three years) and I was just shocked we had a math club I knew nothing about - it was all male. No female under forty understands it, but there is a vast difference in how you are PERCIEVED between your youth and your middle age. Hillary is the poster child for a female who is denigrated more for sex and appearance than for her positions, and it irritates me to no end that Sanders is engaging in it more and more out of desperation.

And the Grow up Seventies is irony, so you do not need to comment on its improper English.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
146. Get along!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

You are all really just children aren't you? No idea of history or the democratic party.

Start a third party if that is what you want. At least Nader had the ballyhoos to do it, unlike the Bern. (Takeout the yhoo).

ornotna

(10,805 posts)
168. He's walking the streets of NYC right now
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016

Greeting people and shaking hands. I guess he came back when he heard you thought he was conceding.

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