2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS' Scott Pelley reported tonight that Romney has closed the gender gap on President Obama.
I have no idea how that could happen, given the completely insane "War on Women" that the Republicans have waged for the last 2 years in Congress, but that is what he reported tonight.
I really have a hard time believing that because:
the Republicans in the House of Representatives passed 1107 bills to restrict a woman's right to have an abortion, to increase women's healthcare costs (by repealing the ACA), to restrict women's rights to contraception, and to restrict or abolish a woman's right to decide how she should best take care of herself by choosing what healthcare choices that are available to her today
AND
the same Republicans in the House of Representatives have yet to pass a Jobs Bill, a clean one that doesn't extend Bush's tax cuts for the 1% of the wealthiest Americans, or a Farms Bill.
blazeKing
(329 posts)They are so full of shit right now. Total GOTV mode for Romney. How come the headline isn't "Obama closes gender gap with Romney"? Since the poll they use shows men evening up too. It's a total fraud. And they're wrong anyways. Men are still for Romney somewhat and women are heavily for Obama.
ncav53
(168 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)Or some other traitor to the fourth estate and the public who put out false spin about the JFK assassination?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I don't believe this crap anyway. They are using some outlier poll to support whatever it is they are spewing, while ignoring other polls that show otherwise.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)Idaho?
Nebraska?
South Carolina?
Oklahoma?
Notice this comes out on the heel of the Mourdock fiasco... they are pushing hard.
Billions of dollars have been spent by Romney and the establishment. BILLIONS. They are not
letting this thing go without a fight.
dennis4868
(9,774 posts)other polls don't show that. But how clould any women support Romney...what does Romney offer women..tax cuts for the wealthy? against equal pay! Against freedom of choice! Against investing in education. Why would women flock to Romney. IT MAKES NO SENSE other than there are a lot of low to no info voters out there.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)if you can call the look of constipation sexy.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)I know some folks are stiff for for Electoral/Popular split, but it's just not going to happen and the swing states obviously show a very different story.
So either the swing state polling is wrong or some od the national polling is wrong. Cause they can't both be right unless like I said it's all based in southern ans GOP western states.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)By righting men in their lives that tell them how to vote
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Sad but it happens
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)and Supreme Court justices.
He keeps moving the discussion from choice to economic and jobs discussion. He steps on himself over and over again.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Biden brought up the Robert Bork issue during the V.P. debate, but Obama and his surrogates need to do so as well.
Send this link around:
http://romneycourt.com/
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)on how to properly call this out. Or let Michelle loose. I have no doubt she could (and would love to) nail the issue.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)But, Michelle doesn't ever talk about the Supreme Court or those types of decisions.
She talks in generalities, not specifics.
CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)he did it last night on leno even
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)for the love of god, he is winning his firewall and tied in the outer swing. He doesn't have to do jack. The campaign has already told you the nationals can't be trusted but people continue to ignore the campaign because clearly they know better.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)When Democrats win it is because of the women's vote. Period
CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)These polls are skewed (national) for red states that are going all in against Obama. Meaningless at this point.
Also, Obama mentions the court frequently -- I heard him do it last night again.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Assuming Romney closed the gap with women and Romney still leads with men, then Romney should be winning by 15+.
Horseshit.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I didn't make this up, this was on the news tonight.
I have a hard time believing it, but this is what the anchor for the CBS News said on tv tonight.
I don't see how this could happen.
I really don't.
What's worse is that the mainstream media barely mentioned what the candidate for the Senate for Indiana, Mourdoch, said about rape at his debate on Tuesday night.
It's unbelievable!
brush
(53,791 posts)CBS along with much of the MSM is in the tank for the repugs, after all, they are all corporate owned. I mean, c'mon, after the one repug pol (who Romney endorsed by the way) who said "a rape, however horrible, is God's wish", how is anyone with an drop of sense supposed to believe that crapola that Romney has closed the gender gap?
woolldog
(8,791 posts)I tuned to CNN briefly and they were talking about how Obamas plan "doesn't add up". I just changed the channel. Man it's frustrating.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)They've lost the Romney surge narrative and are now drilling deeper into the polls to find data that cane keep the horse race alive.
Fact: if Obama lost his lead among women he'd be behind in every swing state.
The companion to the Romney surge with women is that Obama had closed Romney's gap with men. I don't believe that either.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)You know, like the ones you rent. Then the horses all kind of go nose to butt in a line and just follow the horse in front of them.
That's what it's like today with the MSM - one says it, so the next reports it, then the next reports it and it goes down the line - all like a herd of trail horses, nose to ass. No real thinking involved, just follow along
villager
(26,001 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)nt
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama?
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Yesterday the subject was a tie in the electoral college . Today it seems to be the gender gap. Lazy, lazy lazy.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Nate Silver said on Upfront on CNN tonight that one poll should not be pimped out in the media over and over again that seems different then the others. But he knows better and called the media out on it. Just ignore the MSM until after the election is over. I watch a little MSNBC, some Jon Stewart and Colbert for laughs and mostly stick to the internet. The network news media is useless and the average viewer of network and cable news is very high...mid 50's to 60's. Only MSNBC is making gains lately in younger viewers 25 to 49. The audience is more older white Repubs so they give them the news they want.
ShadowLiberal
(2,237 posts)It's a story reading too much into one polls internal numbers, internal numbers have less then the typical 1,000 respondent standard, so those numbers have much higher margins of error.
Also, if every poll has a 5% margin of error that means that 1 out of every 20 polls will be wrong and outside the margin of error.
Also, multiple polls done the SAME time period in the same area (nationally) show the gender gap increasing, they don't get media focus because they don't have unusual internal numbers.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)fugop
(1,828 posts)Or did you miss the cnn piece that said we all vite based on our hormones. When we feel awash in sexy hormones, we all vote liberal! But look out otherwise!