2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSome Questions for Hillary Clinton Supporters
First off this article is posted under a Creative Commons license, so I am reposting it here in full.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/17/some-questions-hillary-clinton-supporters
Response to pinebox (Original post)
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pinebox
(5,761 posts)Faux pas
(14,690 posts)Questions that terrifies the Clinton supporters. I dare ONE to pop in here and answer it truthfully.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... the way her base feels about her because WS is not their boogyman,
3.) Everyone who knows anything about finances knows GS played little part in the crash & Sanders CFMA vote played a bigger part
4.) Sophistry, she doesn't adovcate stupid regime change,
5.) Clinton learned from IWR and apologized while Sanders still hasn't learned from voting against Brady bill 5 times and his CFMA vote
6.) No, that's why there's a wide and diverse swath of Americans supporting Clinton
Last question: No, the country needs change real fast but Sanders is a shit talker without a plan to do such so I'll go with what has proven to work until that person comes.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Wait, Hillary doesn't advocate for regime change? Are you actually paying attention this election cycle?
I'm thinking you aren't.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... fact I typed she doesn't advocate regime change in the dumbest way possible!?
Come on...
Anger is a motivator and not a solution
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Your words, not mine and I proved you're wrong.
Iraq was a stupid regime change.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)which equates to bad judgement.
Ironically both Bernie and Obama did.
I could write you a list of bad judgement calls on her part.
DOMA, DADT, TPP, Honduras, on and on. You know this. We know this. Yet whoosh, you're so enamored with your candidate that no amount of Windex is going to clear your glasses off to see the truth.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He was no fan of dictators staying in power, and he also had no problem supporting violence in the name of overthrowing unelected leaders.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Not my fault. Go examine that pic in my sig line some more.
Or were you away from DU for several months?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Thanks for the explanation.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)uponit7771
(90,359 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Do you think there are non-dumb ways to conduct regime change in the 2000s?
In other words, should we practice regime change as an instrument of foreign policy in places like Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Iran?
And if so, what are the non-dumb means?
think
(11,641 posts)to acknowledge it.
Hell. Even people who work on Wall Street say it is corrupt:
By Rich Smith - Jul 20th 2012 5:15PM
Is Wall Street corrupt? Responses vary depending on whom you ask. But ask the folks who work in the financial services industry and you'll get a surprisingly clear answer: "Yes."
A recent survey of 500 financial services professionals, conducted by market researcher Populus at the behest of law firm Labaton Sucharow, turned up some surprisingly candid results from the folks surveyed. For example:
39% of financial industry insiders surveyed "reported that their competitors are likely to have engaged in illegal or unethical activity in order to be successful."
And this was more than just suspicion. "26% of respondents indicated that they had observed or had firsthand knowledge of wrongdoing in the workplace."
Nearly one in four "believed that financial services professionals may need to engage in unethical or illegal conduct in order to be successful.
Nearly one in three said they themselves felt "pressured by bonus or compensation plans to violate the law or engage in unethical conduct....
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/07/20/stockbroker-corrupt-wall-street-cheats/
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... and having to explain to him why his color matters and theirs don't so much.
think
(11,641 posts)How many times do Wall Street banks need to rip off Americans before someone goes to jail?
14 banks are currently being sued for rigging interest rates by a pension fund.
~Snip~
The defendants include Bank of America Corp, Barclays Plc, BNP Paribas SA, Citigroup Inc, Credit Suisse Group AG, Deutsche Bank AG, Goldman Sachs Group Inc, HSBC Holdings Plc, JPMorgan Chase & Co, Morgan Stanley, Nomura Holdings Inc, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc, UBS AG and Wells Fargo & Co.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-banks-rigging-lawsuit-idUSKCN0WU1E8
And that's a different investigation from the LIBOR scandal that made banks felons where STILL no one went to jail. There are many more examples of fraud, bribery, money laundering, and theft by these banks.
Just because these banks didn't steal from YOUR pension fund doesn't make it right for them to steal the pension funds of others.
Open you eyes. Good grief....
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And that caricature is less than flattering.