2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Stalls on Goldman Sachs Speeches
Politico reported, "'It was pretty glowing about us,'" one person who watched the event said. "'It's so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now.'"
"She didn't often talk about the financial crisis, but when she did, she almost always struck an amicable tone, according to these people.
"In some cases, she thanked the audience for what they had done for the country, the people said. One attendee said the warmth with which Mrs. Clinton greeted guests bordered on 'gushy.'
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35162-hillary-clinton-stalls-on-goldman-sachs-speeches
Octafish
(55,745 posts)"I don't know. That's what they offered."
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-speaking-fees-cnn-town-hall-bernie-sanders-2016-2
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)it has been demonstrated her minimum speaking fees was $200K
beedle
(1,235 posts)UCLA I believe it was, was charged $200K and asked for a discount. She told that that was her discounted fee for universities.
So yes, she obviously did lie when she said that was what 'they' offered ... of course it doesn't raise to the level of Bernie saying 'yep'
Marr
(20,317 posts)In the space of 5 minutes, you have to argue that it's fine for Hillary to have secret meetings with Mammon itself, but Sanders meeting the Pope is an embarrassing condemnation of his character.
reddread
(6,896 posts)is it a buyers or sellers market?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Rubio hasnt given paid speeches to Wall st. Kasisch hasnt given paid speeches to Wall Street, Cruz hasnt given paid speeches to Wall Street and Trump IS Wall Street and certainly isnt giving any paid speeches to them.
Time for Hillary to release the transcripts. She said she would release them AFTER every candidate has released theirs. Well it is done. They are released. It was a good bet while it lasted. Now she must own up to her promise and release them now.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/24/1490821/-NONE-of-the-Republican-candidates-have-given-paid-speeches-to-Wall-Street-either-just-Hillary
Well there goes another Clinton Campaign Myth
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)I have no idea why anyone thinking of running for office would do this kind of thing.
Unless they were a well known motivational speaker or a subject matter expert doing their thing.
It's just reckless.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)It is because republicans are such fucking morons no one on Wall Street would pay for their idotic BS! Just saying!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)This is what is the problem with Hillary. She is lying to the public as to who she really is. It's not only what she does behind closed doors, it's in her facial expressions, her body language and intent in her eyes when she is mad. She is not who people think she is. It saddens me that our political process is being rigged and those that are in the club are the ones who are the controllers. The Country is waking up. There is a revolution that will show more and more their distaste for this theater of lies and deception.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)In their somnolence many are only dimly aware of lies and propaganda as told by the corporate owned media and thus some support a candidate that openly and habitually lies to them in order to continue serving her masters that have already made her a multimillionaire by doing their bidding at our expense.
However some dreamers have awakened! Many no longer follow the mcpravda media and are seeing with their own newly opened eyes as their lives and livelihoods fall apart all around them while the billionaires capture all the wealth created by the work and effort of those that see themselves falling either from middle class into the working poor, or from the poor to the desperately impoverished. while at the same time witnessing the once solid safety nets put into place to keep them safe and fed, free from the horrid conditions of more Dickensian times being ripped to shreds little by little before their eyes, with both parties complicit in their destruction.
One need look no farther than a Republican stump speech or the more cleverly hidden common goals of the new Democrats that have become Vichy collaborators that hide their plans in the open to destroy those safeguards against complete hopelessness by perusing the chapters of the PPI or Third Way sites where they scheme with the (john Birch Society Transformed) Republican party to not only recreate the gilded age (which they have already done).....
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hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)think about it.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)and that's never going to bode well - especially when Sachs keeps getting slap on wrist fines for intentional malfeasance
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Just look at eToys case and Fingerhut
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)SEC and Goldman Sachs are almost like twins
Sachs's Delaware law firm is MNAT
MNAT's partner - Colm Connolly became the Delaware United States Attorney
who constantly never disclosed his connections to Goldman Sachs
and Kept Goldman Sachs from being investigation (much less prosecuted)
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Once we found proof that our eToys counsel (MNAT) was lying and hiding the facts of also representing Sachs
while our eToys was suing Sachs (therefore - in essence - Sachs sued Sachs and eToys lost)
and we also discovered that the United States Attorney (Colm Connolly) was a partner of Sachs's law firm MNAT
we reported it to the PUblic Corruption Task Force in Los Angeles
Which was then SHUT DOWN and career federal prosecutors were threatened to silence
See Los Angeles Times article "Shake-up roils federal prosecutors"
Asked about the recent dismantling of a high-profile unit in the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles that specialized in public corruption cases, an office spokesman provided what some saw as a curious justification:
Eliminating the public integrity and environmental crimes section, spokesman Thom Mrozek said, would actually enhance the effort to prosecute such cases.
{Task Force US Attorney} O'Brien threatened to tarnish their reputations if they challenged the official explanation for the unit's dismantling in conversations with reporters. Members of the unit contacted by The Times either spoke on the condition that they not be named or declined to comment. Several said they wanted to talk about the situation but feared reprisals if they did so.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Very Damming
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)We get those wanting to be dealt in
and others saying - HELL NO - you're on your own with this one
Only fools (such as I) venture into sagas - where angels fear to tread
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Hillary was paid heavily for speeches to the same institutions who crashed the economy with their hedge fund schemes and toxic mortgage-backed securities.
Her son-in-law worked 8 years in the hedge fund industry at Goldman Sachs before starting his own hedge fund group into which the Goldman Sachs CEO is invested.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/business/dealbook/for-clintons-a-hedge-fund-in-the-family.html
And her campaign manager John Podesta (Group) handles PR (public relations) for billions of dollars in arms sales to the Saudis from such big players like Lockheed Martin.
You know Saudi Arabia?... the country responsible for 9/11?
Well the John Podesta Group is essentially a go-between that helps Saudi Arabia with their image to further sales growth in weaponry, etc.
The military industrial banking complex is powerful and they want her at the helm.
They are more comfortable with her as President rather than Bernie.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/01/07/washingtons-multi-million-dollar-saudi-pr-machine
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)And it will further deflate enthusiasm for the Democratic vote.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)because Bernie isn't there.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)because H. Clinton is accepting a great deal of damage to keep the transcripts secret.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)our eToys.com public company
continued the crimes in the bankruptcy courts, NY Supreme Court, NY, DE and CA District and Circuit Courts
doing so by corruptly arranging for a Goldman Sachs attorney to become the very prosecutor over the cases
and then shutting down the Public Corruption Task Force - to continue the cover up
Anybody who took millions from such a company wouldn't ever want the facts to come to main stream light
And its too late to stop it from doing so.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)And I still say full release would sink her.
lakeguy
(1,640 posts)tidal wave. No one will believe a word HRC says after that, not that many people do now.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)And that might explain why the Republican establishment is becoming accepting of Ted Cruz.
amborin
(16,631 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Spectacularly bad in the speeches, probably just boilerplate platitudes and praise for the company. The problem stems from the fact that -- thanks to Bernie Sanders stance on wall street -- Hillary has said she was always strong on wall street. And one can't praise wall Street while telling them to cut it out at the same time.
What concerns me is that the worst case scenario is that it's Hillary v. Cruz and Cruz's wife some how leaks the transcripts.
She really just needs to release them and get it over with.