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RandySF

(59,162 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:44 AM Apr 2016

Sanders Praises Anti-Gay, Anti-Contraception, Anti-Choice World Leader: "He Is a Beautiful Man"

After some will-he-or-won't-he intrigue, Bernie Sanders finally did get his meeting with Pope Francis on Saturday morning in Vatican City. Although the presidential hopeful was seemingly ecstatic about the very brief encounter, the pontiff did his best to play it down, characterizing it as pretty much a quick hello. "When I came down, I greeted them, shook their hands and nothing more,” the pope told reporters. “This is good manners. It's called good manners and not getting mixed up in politics. If anyone thinks that greeting someone means getting involved in politics, they should see a psychiatrist.”

Sanders, on the other hand, said the hallway encounter amounted to “an extraordinary moment,” adding that he “enjoyed the opportunity to chat with him.” After their brief encounter, the presidential hopeful was filled with praise for the leader who has done precious little to tackle the rampant child sex abuse perpetrated by members of the institution he heads and has repeatedly talked about the need to treat gays and lesbians like second-class citizens.

"I just conveyed to him my admiration for the extraordinary work he is doing raising some of the most important issues facing our planet and the billions of people on the planet and injecting the need for morality in the global economy," Sanders said. No photographs were taken of the encounter and Sanders declined to say what the pope told him.

The senator from Vermont was at the Vatican days before the crucial New York primary on Tuesday to attend a conference on social, economic, and environmental issues. "The issues that I talked about yesterday at the conference, as you well know, are issues that I have been talking about not just throughout this campaign but throughout my political life," Sanders said in an interview with the Associated Press.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/16/pope_francis_says_sanders_meeting_was_manners_not_politics.html

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Sanders Praises Anti-Gay, Anti-Contraception, Anti-Choice World Leader: "He Is a Beautiful Man" (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2016 OP
Y'all still going at it aren't y'all? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Meanwhile... SHRED Apr 2016 #2
I'm sure Hillary and the pope would have far more in common when it comes to social issues. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #3
So? You seem to have completely misdirected praise for a warmonger CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #4
This head of the Catholic church will never be Pro-Gay, Pro-Contraception, or Pro-Choice. Autumn Apr 2016 #5
The same blogger took a swipe at Bernie for how he handled that anti-Semitic heckler. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #9
That he does. Major issues Autumn Apr 2016 #10
The OP has a long history of promoting Francis prior to Bernie going to the Vatican it was a string Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #19
You're right, I did a search and he seems to be a fan of Frank's. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #30
Italy is dumb. I didn't want to go to his stupid party anyway. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #6
The emperor says... TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #7
Pick up the needle, and it will stop the skipping record Armstead Apr 2016 #8
Now we are at Bernie met with a horrible man Autumn Apr 2016 #12
Yet the Clinton Foundation considered him quite a catch since they invited him CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #11
Let me get this straight. sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #13
If your candidate would like to slam the Pope Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #14
What a pathetic post. longship Apr 2016 #15
Yes he says such terrible things~ Kalidurga Apr 2016 #16
Here are 3 of RandySF OP's in High Praise of Anti-Gay, Anti-Contraception, Anti-Choice World Leader Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #17
Well isn't that interesting? Excellent research. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #31
Happy Sunday! It's official "Hate the Pope" day! Vinca Apr 2016 #18
RandySF, you need to address your 180 shift on the Francis issue, you spent months on DU prasing him Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #20
Interesting. nt vintx Apr 2016 #22
Don't hold your breath. n/t QC Apr 2016 #24
Marching orders from Camp Weathervane. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #25
which candidate is kissinger's friend? oh yeah. not bernie. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #21
Hillary Clinton is a "great admirer" of Pope Francis. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #26
When you support the candidate that spoke glowingly at Rick Warren's church Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #27
And you? You're supporting a candidate that was against equal rights for gays until very recently. Broward Apr 2016 #28
The combined radiance of both in the same small space must have been blinding. randome Apr 2016 #29
You don't give a shit about this unless it can help Hillary win the primary. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #32
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. Meanwhile...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

You've got Hillary paid heavily for speeches to the same institutions who crashed the economy with their hedge fund schemes and toxic mortgage-backed securities.

Her son-in-law worked 8 years in the hedge fund industry at Goldman Sachs before starting his own hedge fund group into which the Goldman Sachs CEO is invested.

And her campaign manager John Podesta (Group) handles PR (public relations) for billions of dollars in arms sales to the Saudis from such big players like Lockheed Martin.
You know Saudi Arabia?... the country responsible for 9/11?
Well the John Podesta Group is essentially a go-between that helps Saudi Arabia with their image to further sales growth in weaponry, etc.

The military industrial banking complex is powerful and they want her at the helm.

They are more comfortable with her as President rather than Bernie.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/01/07/washingtons-multi-million-dollar-saudi-pr-machine

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. I'm sure Hillary and the pope would have far more in common when it comes to social issues.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

After all unlike Bernie she agreed with the pope that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman:





And also unlike Bernie she's willing to compromise on abortion:



CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. So? You seem to have completely misdirected praise for a warmonger
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

who appointed the founder of the neocon movement (Robert Kagan) as one of her advisers.

I mean, who lets that shit in the front door? You must be overwhelmed with outrage and cognitive dissonance.



Autumn

(45,120 posts)
5. This head of the Catholic church will never be Pro-Gay, Pro-Contraception, or Pro-Choice.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

It's his core belief, he is still a beautiful compassionate man and a force to be reckoned with. In 20 years the church will be different thanks in part to this man. Deal with it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. The same blogger took a swipe at Bernie for how he handled that anti-Semitic heckler.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

He has issues with Bernie that don't appear to be related to his politics.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. The OP has a long history of promoting Francis prior to Bernie going to the Vatican it was a string
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:41 AM
Apr 2016

of OP's praising Francis by RandySF.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. You're right, I did a search and he seems to be a fan of Frank's.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

But now he threw him under the bus because he met Bernie?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
8. Pick up the needle, and it will stop the skipping record
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.




But how did he pay for it?
But how did he pay for it?
But how did he pay for it?
But how did he pay for it?
But how did he pay for it?
But how did he pay for it?

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
11. Yet the Clinton Foundation considered him quite a catch since they invited him
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

to their big party. So it's hilarious to see Clinton supporters peddling this meme.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
13. Let me get this straight.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

Yes, the Pope cannot change the Vatican's long
held discrimination on several issues.

Yet, he is able and has done so to call the way
we treat the planet and all life in it a "suicide
road", and ask for a humanitarian effort to fight
against greed.

This man is fighting his own Vatican policies, and
yes, is risking his life for that.(But you may not
recall what happens to "revolutionary"Popes).

Thus the fact that Bernie joins him with those two
unbelievably important issues is a crime now?

Where do you stand in regard to those issues?
Sometimes:smh

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
14. If your candidate would like to slam the Pope
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:14 AM
Apr 2016

because of those negative attributes you point out in your subject line, she should go right ahead and proceed with that.

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. What a pathetic post.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:49 AM
Apr 2016

My response:

BIRDIE SANDERS! BIRDIE, BIRDIE SANDERS!

Now go to your fainting couch or I will taunt you further.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
16. Yes he says such terrible things~
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:59 AM
Apr 2016
Refugees are not numbers, they are people who have faces, names, stories, and need to be treated as such.

Love is the only light which can constantly illuminate a world grown dim.

The divorced who have entered a new union should be made to feel part of the Church. They are not excommunicated.

People with disabilities are a gift for the family and an opportunity to grow in love, mutual aid and unity.

No one can be excluded from the mercy of God. The Church is the house where everyone is welcomed and no one is rejected.


I can't find it in myself to judge him more harshly than people I know family, friends, acquaintances, who in my opinion have some extremely backwards views. They also have some good qualities and they aren't trying to hurt people, they might though with their narrow thinking. But, on the other hand they also care about their friends, their family, their acquaintances and they do try to cope with a changing world. No one I know is a raging Foxaholic and the Pope doesn't strike me as that sort of person either.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Here are 3 of RandySF OP's in High Praise of Anti-Gay, Anti-Contraception, Anti-Choice World Leader
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

Five-year old gives the pope a letter because she doesn’t want her parents deported
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027197678

Pope Francis fires all but one Cardinal Running Vatican Bank
ROME — Pope Francis on Wednesday (Jan. 15) took his biggest step yet at cleaning house at the scandal-ridden Vatican Bank, replacing most of the institution’s advisers with fresh faces.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024344896

Home Depot founder worries Pope Francis neither loves nor understands rich Americans
In an interview on CNBC on Monday, Home Depot founder and devout Catholic Ken Langone said that the Pope’s statements about capitalism have left many potential “capitalist benefactors” wary of donating to the Church or its fundraising projects.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024254374


It's odd to see you snarling at Francis after months and months of extremely active promotion of Francis who was just as opposed to LGBT rights and contraception then as he is today. You aggressively praised and lauded him, promoted him and held him up as an example of excellence.

Pretty hypocritical.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. RandySF, you need to address your 180 shift on the Francis issue, you spent months on DU prasing him
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:47 AM
Apr 2016

and promoting him as a political voice. Many OP's. Many in thread comments.

You have been one of the most active Francis boosters on DU. But now.....not. And that really is something you should own and address and discuss with the community here today. You seem to fault Bernie even when he agrees with your established world view and that makes you look as if you are motivated by bias or bigotry and not by policy or principle. It has to be said.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
27. When you support the candidate that spoke glowingly at Rick Warren's church
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

You might want to avoid the over the top rhetoric regarding others speaking to less caustic religious leaders.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
28. And you? You're supporting a candidate that was against equal rights for gays until very recently.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:37 AM
Apr 2016

You're backing a candidate that voted for an immoral, disastrous war out of political expediency.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. The combined radiance of both in the same small space must have been blinding.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
32. You don't give a shit about this unless it can help Hillary win the primary.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:58 AM
Apr 2016

You're not fooling anyone.

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