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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:11 AM Feb 2012

I'm fine with Romney being the GOP nominee

I know the conventional wisdom is that he is the toughest to beat. But I don't necessarily buy that. He is a very weak 'front runner'. He 'won' his homestate where he invested $3 million by 3-points over RICK SANTORUM! of all people. The more people see him they don't like him. He is robotic and unlikeable. He oozes the 1% and when he tries to identify with 'regular people' he comes across as the phony he is. He has taken every position possible on every single major issue which has given him the image of a flip flopper. What he considers his strong point-his business background--will haunt him because of all the people he threw out of work. Overall, he seems priviledged and unfeeling. Furthermore, he has (overall) done worse in this campaign than he did in 2008. He doesn't have a lot of STRONG support among the rank & file of the GOP (tea partiers and the evangelical christians). He has shown little success thus far in a key region of the country--the midwest losing in Missouri, Iowa and Minnesota and winning his home state of Michigan by an underwhelming margin.

If this is the guy they want to nominate, I say bring it on.

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I'm fine with Romney being the GOP nominee (Original Post) WI_DEM Feb 2012 OP
And he can't Win a southern state in the primary. Renew Deal Feb 2012 #1
I agree...Romney is weak sauce alcibiades_mystery Feb 2012 #2
Santorum is polling better in match-ups against the president than Romney. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #16
I agree. And the red meat knuckle-draggers of the party ... GodlessBiker Feb 2012 #3
depends on how much they hate President Obama mucifer Feb 2012 #4
But that will only make it close, imo PRETZEL Feb 2012 #5
The MSM now has 8 months to prop up Romney nevergiveup Feb 2012 #6
And we have American Crossroads to repeat lies about Obama 24/7 emulatorloo Feb 2012 #7
Doesn't matter bowens43 Feb 2012 #8
Yes, but I think some of them will choose to stay home and not vote at all. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #13
Don't forget Seamus dragonlady Feb 2012 #9
We won't forget Carla in Sequim Mar 2012 #20
I am just happy that we will have a candidate supportive of moderation - for trees. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #10
Agree - bring it on Cosmocat Feb 2012 #11
I don't mind that he's the nominee, either. I just wanted the race to last a bit longer Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #12
Romney Dampens Enthusiasm Among Republicans Which Help The Dems Yavin4 Feb 2012 #14
Romney is not a strong opponent - but he is the strongest. None of these SWTORFanatic Feb 2012 #15
The GOP don't have their shit together, but they are very good at marketing. Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #17
I think a lot of far right will stay home marlakay Feb 2012 #18
Huntsman would have been the strongest candidate IMO davidpdx Mar 2012 #19
The Republicans are f'ed stillers4ever Mar 2012 #21
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. I agree...Romney is weak sauce
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:17 AM
Feb 2012

He's being nominated because he appears the most reasonable of a group of deeply unreasonable fanatics. He's also the money guy, and that's the real Republican platform anyway, faux populism and culture war nonsense being nothing more than their forty year old strategy of riling up the lowest elements of society.

But he doesn't strike me as a strong opponent for an incumbent President.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
16. Santorum is polling better in match-ups against the president than Romney.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:44 PM
Feb 2012

The 'Rmoney's the biggest threat' meme has hit a brick wall.

Weaksauce indeed.

GodlessBiker

(6,314 posts)
3. I agree. And the red meat knuckle-draggers of the party ...
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:20 AM
Feb 2012

won't be as energized to vote like they would be if frothy mix is the nominee.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
5. But that will only make it close, imo
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:36 AM
Feb 2012

both Rmoney and Sanatorium are rapidly alienating independants while at the same time energizing our base. That isn't a good combination for them.

nevergiveup

(4,766 posts)
6. The MSM now has 8 months to prop up Romney
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:42 AM
Feb 2012

and make him a formidable candidate. They will do their best but they don't have much to work with.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
8. Doesn't matter
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:05 AM
Feb 2012

no matter how much they dislike romney like dislike the black guy more....

He is the only one of the bunch that people will as reasonable. You have to keep in mind that at this point, the vast majority of americans are paying absolutely no attention to politics. They will start paying attention a few weeks before the election. Romney is likable, has good hair and looks presidential

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
13. Yes, but I think some of them will choose to stay home and not vote at all.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:50 AM
Feb 2012

They hate Obama but they can't bring themselves to vote for Romney, so they stay home. This scenario is probably more likely with the more strident religious fanatics, particularly in the South. I grew up there and believe that a good deal of these voters do not believe that Mormons are Christians, and even if they are, they are the *wrong* kinds of Christians.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
9. Don't forget Seamus
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:36 AM
Feb 2012

I'm convinced that what he did to that dog will lose him millions of votes a Republican might otherwise have received.

Carla in Sequim

(228 posts)
20. We won't forget
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:05 AM
Mar 2012

Every time I hear the name of that poor dog, I run and grab my Beagle and hug her.
Yeah, Romney is fine with me. Bring it on.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
10. I am just happy that we will have a candidate supportive of moderation - for trees.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

Those dang uppity leftist California Redwoods have had their day in the sun. It is time to celebrate trees of the right height.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
11. Agree - bring it on
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:44 AM
Feb 2012

He is a viable candidate, and the media WILL prop him up and start chipping at BO.

LOTS of time between now and then, so who knows.

But, if the economy stays on its sluglike recovery and there are not domestic terrorist events, BO should get it done.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
12. I don't mind that he's the nominee, either. I just wanted the race to last a bit longer
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
Feb 2012

that's all. I think the drawn out race is actually hurting, not helping him, as it did with Obama. The difference? The guy is disliked. The more this goes on, the more is "likeability" numbers are affected.

He will inevitably be the nominee, but I don't think that Super Tuesday is going to settle things if he can't win at least 1 or 2 of the southern states.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
14. Romney Dampens Enthusiasm Among Republicans Which Help The Dems
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:03 PM
Feb 2012

down the ticket. With Mitt as their nominee, they're just not going to be as motivated to vote.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
15. Romney is not a strong opponent - but he is the strongest. None of these
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:09 PM
Feb 2012

other nutjobs would get more than 10% of independents - Romney has an outside shot at winning because he can actually get independents. And the rabid base would vote for him... hell, they'd even vote for Jimmy Carter over "the black guy".

That said, barring a major October Surprise (planned or unplanned) or personal scandal I think Obama wins.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
17. The GOP don't have their shit together, but they are very good at marketing.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:01 PM
Feb 2012

I don't have a lot of faith in Democratic marketing discipline. This race will be closer than you think... particularly if the Euro takes a nosedive or the situation between Iran and Israel gets out of hand.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. Huntsman would have been the strongest candidate IMO
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:27 AM
Mar 2012

But the Republicans are too stupid to see that and knocked him out early.

 

stillers4ever

(33 posts)
21. The Republicans are f'ed
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:31 AM
Mar 2012

The Repubs will nominate Romney even though they don't like him. They think he can draw those crucial "moderate" independent votes.

Newt is a known scumbag, and even the Republican Party isn't stupid enough to run him against Obama. Think about the contrast of Obama's marriage and family life up against Newts adulterous ways and explain to me how he can be the shining beacon of morality that the R's want to sell themselves as...lol.

Then there is Santorum. Someone needs to tell him that he's running for POTUS, not Pope.
And he has the nerve to describe himself as "courageous"...classic.

I actually like Ron Paul. He is the only one who wants to stop the USA from being in an eternal state of war with one nation or another. But, alas, no one is listening. America is drunk on war, to paraphrase Sherman.

So...it will be Romney. At the end of the day, I don't think he can create a compelling arguement that he is the answer to Americas' problems.

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