2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumChuck Todd said Romney campaign told him Ohio is "essentially" tied. Whatever.
We all know the Romney campaign LIES!
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)S_E_Fudd
(1,295 posts)It really means "well we are behind but we can find a poll or two within the margin of error"
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)means "even our numbers show that we're losing - indeed, our own numbers show us losing by so much that we can't say that we're tied without stretching credulity, so we'll go with 'essentially' tied, since that's an adequate qualifier to indicate that we're not saying we're tied in actual fact as indicated by even our own internal poll numbers, but rather in a metaphysical and unverifiable sense."
If I was a GOPer and I heard the Romney campaign note an "essential" tie in Ohio with less than two weeks until election day, I'd be crying in bed.
Buddaman
(503 posts)i had to read what you said 3 times..........well said
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)krawhitham
(4,644 posts)He did not say it was "essentially" tied, he said rMoney's camp claims it is "essentially" tied
Lex
(34,108 posts)lalalu
(1,663 posts)Todd admits he does his reporting based solely on what the Romney campaign tells him.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)and "essentially" tied could mean down 3-5 points too. Because 3-5 is still in the MOE
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)home.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)that statement really says a lot. If they were close, the Romney team would be more boastful.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)His reportage is so pertinent to our lives
We People
(619 posts)Geez, when will they essentially fire that tool?
Springslips
(533 posts)Down 10-points = close to the margin of error.
Down 5 points =essentially tied
Tied= a comfortable lead.
Up 5 points= landslide
Up 10 points= mandate.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)Actually, I'm of average intelligence, wealth, and have a face for radio.
But it's all relative, I suppose.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)DFW
(54,410 posts)I thought not.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)They would have told him they are up a few points if it was tied.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)they report how things are in the race to the WH.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....they are losing.
naviman
(102 posts)I remember with a week to go, the McCain line was that they were "essentially tied" meaning the polls were within the margin of error.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)What happened to real news with, you know, facts and stuff.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)Moe recently so that's what was said. Another thought is that if they constantly taunt the MOE that means they are a bit behind.
PsychProfessor
(204 posts)It certainly makes sense for the media to keep the campaign newsworthy by focusing on any evidence that things are very close. The problem, in my view, is that the appearance of a close race (a widespread belief that "this could go either way, folks!" is a necessary cover for wrong doers, whether it involves some kind voter suppression, actual vote flipping, or anything else (a la 2000). As long as everyone believes the race is thisclose, no one will be surprised to learn that Romney wins. Something has to change. It is clear that nothing is going to happen to change the workings of our very flawed and vulnerable election systems (especially in Ohio). So, what has to change is that media narrative. I just hope that in these last days before the election it becomes clear that a Romney win would indicate something quite unlikely, some so unlikely that even those who might be interested in rigging the election might recognize that they lack the cover to do so. (I sound like a tin hat, I know. But dang this stuff worries me...)
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...hey Toady, you are and have been on Ignore for a long time.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)all places are "essentially tied" until the polls close and the votes are counted. That is the only context in which this is true.