2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Praises Ruling Allowing Sandy Hook Families To Sue Gunmaker; Sanders remains mute
Hillary Clinton Praises Ruling Allowing Sandy Hook Families To Sue GunmakerDemocratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is praising a decision by a Connecticut judge to allow the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre to sue the gun manufacturer.
After Judge Barbara Bellis denied a motion from the gun manufacturers to dismiss a case brought by the families of the Sandy Hook massacre victims, Hillary Clinton said, Todays ruling in Connecticut is an important step forward for these families, who are bravely fighting to hold irresponsible gun makers accountable for their actions. They deserve their day in court. Period. Unfortunately, PLCAA the sweeping immunity law that protects gun manufacturers and dealers still remains a major obstacle for these families and others seeking to hold these gun companies accountable. That is why, as president, I would lead the charge to repeal this law. Nothing can make these families whole again after losing their children and loved ones in Sandy Hook, but they deserve a president who will fight for them, and I am committed to doing just that.
The presidential campaign of Sen.[font size="+1"] Bernie Sanders has yet to release a statement on the decision, but in the past Sanders has said that he is not in favor of the gun manufacturers being sued for selling a legal product[/font].
Gun policy has been a major point of difference between the two Democratic presidential campaigns. It is a near certainty that this topic will be brought up at the CNN Democratic debate.
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RandySF
(59,224 posts)They can piss off for all he cares.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)hillary supporter - like hillary herself -run for cover like they are in bosnia
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Using them for political gain is no more admirable than the people who are leading them on a fool's errand.
Parents of Aurora shooting victim ordered to pay $200,000 in legal fees to ammo dealer
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/8/3/1408480/-Parents-of-Aurora-shooting-victim-ordered-to-pay-200-000-in-legal-fees-to-ammo-dealer
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)What used to be a major progressive issue, is now right of center!
Logical
(22,457 posts)RandySF
(59,224 posts)Whichever comes first.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)hate guns so just want to be mad.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)indicates they did something wrong. You haven't seen the evidence.
Neither have I.
Where I differ with Senator Sanders is that I think gun manufacturers, like everyone else,should be brought to equity.
Logical
(22,457 posts)about "everybody else" which is bullshit.
Congress has regularly passed limitations on liability for other groups, including small-aircraft manufacturers, Internet service and content providers and vaccine-makers.
Get informed before spouting off.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)My first day of law school was all about how tort feasors should pay for the wrongs they do.
"Whining".......is that what the Sandy Hook families are doing?
Logical
(22,457 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)misunderstand liability.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)... items which have actual practical uses. the only use for a military weapon is for killing. What practical use does that have in a civilian setting? NONE.
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Vinca
(50,303 posts)But the lawyers will make some money at the expense of the crime victims. For lawsuits to go forward you need to change the laws that allow guns to be legally manufactured, legally distributed and legally sold and the chances of that happening are less than zero. (And, before there's a nasty response, I am not pimping for the gun industry. My preference would be all guns confiscated and individual ownership eliminated.)
arcane1
(38,613 posts)This is exhibit A.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Negligent Entrustment complaint for a 100% legal product, and advertising to sell that product, will be interesting to prove.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)Holiness as he leaves for Greece...give Sanders a break
LexVegas
(6,094 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Bernie should remain 'mute'.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)I think this would be interesting reading.
Most of the lawsuits against gun manufacturers or gun shops that were protected by PLCAA were based in emotionalism and ignorance.
Basically complainants who were truly victimized by criminals try to make juries believe that someone must pay - even if they are not responsible.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)Northrup, Honeywell and other companies whose weapons are killing innocents around the world and whose arm sales she approved as Secretary of State and many of whom have donated to her campaign. No one will ask her that of course, or why she opposed senate bills to ban land mines and cluster bombs, why she tried to derail the banning of cluster bombs by the UN, why she dramatically increased arms (including cluster bombs) sales to Gulf countries, or why she refuses to criticize the use of cluster bombs by Israel or the Saudis. Obviously it would be it would rude to bring these things up or to suggest that corporate interests might influence American policies or her views, especially when those are weighed against genuine humanitarian concerns such as the lives of children in Yemen who have been wounded by Textron cluster bombs. And, of course, it would be border on sedition to ask whether contributions of the war industry might have shaped the view of a candidate, (although Obama did criticize her for accepting money from Textron) because, after all, there is no evidence of a quid pro quo. And, since there is no such influence, I'm sure that she will show moral consistency by supporting class action lawsuits against all arms manufacturers whose products have cause death and destruction anywhere in the world.