The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them (it's called Quid pro Quo)

[Bill USA]

CALCULUS: The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them

Bernie’s response is disingenuous: “In 1988, before I was elected to Congress I was in a race, three-way race, the gun lobby was against me [in] that race because I said in 1988 that we should not have assault weapons sold or distributed in this country… I lost that race because I said in 1988, let’s ban assault weapons in this country. So to keep attacking me, I think, is unfair.”

Disingenuous, because when Bernie ran again two years later, he’d learned his lesson. According to the Washington Post:

As a candidate in 1990, Sanders won over gun rights groups by promising to oppose one bill they hated — a measure that would establish a waiting period for handgun sales. In Congress, he kept that promise. The dynamic served as an early demonstration that, despite his pure-leftist persona, Sanders was at his core a pragmatic politician, calculating that he couldn’t win in rural Vermont without doing something for gun owners.

Bernie modulated his position, and the NRA decided to go after his Republican opponent Peter Smith, pouring money into ads opposing Smith, which they knew would benefit Bernie. NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre endorsed Bernie, writing to members: “Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than Peter Smith.” It worked.

Bernie won. And he kept his word.

According to Correct the Record:

May 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 7, Vote # 83, 5/8/91)

November 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 3371, Vote #443, 11/26/91)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #564, 11/10/93)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the final version of the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #614, 11/22/93)

Bernie Sanders voted for the Gekas Amendment to the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #559, 11/10/93; CQ Floor Votes, 11/10/93)

This three-day default proceed, also known as the Charleston loophole, allowed Dylan Roof to obtain a gun. [New York Times, 7/11/15]

Bernie Sanders opposed a seven-day waiting period for firearms purchases so gun owners wouldn’t “get caught up in a bureaucracy.” (Rutland Herald, 3/30/91)

Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms (PLCAA) in Arms Act which, “shields gun makers and dealers from most liability when their firearms are used criminally.” (Slate, 5/6/15, House Roll Call 534, 10/20/05)

And just today, on ABC News:

Link to video: https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/719175432654839808

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[Jefferson23]

1. Bullshit on the quid pro quo and I say that as a supporter who has disagreed with him.

The legislation the families wanted after the Newtown slaughter was defeated with the
help of four Democrats..Bernie voted for it and has been against assault weapons.

They are stuck having to go after the manufacturers due to those Democrats, not Bernie
and it will be tough for them..as it will not end up with what want they really wanted.

Hillary becomes president, how will she get those people to vote with her?

[Bill USA]

3. from OP, in case you didn't read it.....

May 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 7, Vote # 83, 5/8/91)

November 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 3371, Vote #443, 11/26/91)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #564, 11/10/93)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the final version of the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #614, 11/22/93)

Bernie Sanders voted for the Gekas Amendment to the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #559, 11/10/93; CQ Floor Votes, 11/10/93)

This three-day default proceed, also known as the Charleston loophole, allowed Dylan Roof to obtain a gun. [New York Times, 7/11/15]

Bernie Sanders opposed a seven-day waiting period for firearms purchases so gun owners wouldn’t “get caught up in a bureaucracy.” (Rutland Herald, 3/30/91)

Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms (PLCAA) in Arms Act which, “shields gun makers and dealers from most liability when their firearms are used criminally.” (Slate, 5/6/15, House Roll Call 534, 10/20/05)

[Jefferson23]

8. I already know, and I stand by what I said. I don't think you know what quid pro quo is.

There was no wink wink transaction, he supported his votes..right or wrong.
I don't agree with him on Brady Bill, and I support the lawsuit against the manufacturers.

*"He wasn't opposed to states having (waiting periods) if they wanted to. The Republicans wanted to repeal waiting periods in states that had them, and Bernie voted that down," Weaver said. "He said he would be against waiting periods, and he kept his word to the people of Vermont."

In April 1991, Sanders’ then-chief of staff Anthony Pollina echoed the idea that Sanders was simply representing the will of his constituents.

"Bernie’s response is that he doesn’t just represent liberals and progressives. He was sent to Washington to present all of Vermont," Pollina said. "It’s not inappropriate for a congressman to support a majority position, particularly on something Vermonters have been very clear about."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/10/generation-forward-pac/did-bernie-sanders-vote-against-background-checks-/

[Bill USA]

19. Oh, I get your 'point'.....

"I see NOTHING, I hear NOTHING, I know NOTHING!"

[Jefferson23]

29. That would be you and your strawman...enjoy. n/t

[artislife]

12. Funny how you supporters deny h having quid pro quo with the banksters. nt

[Bill USA]

14. as HRC has asked, I ask for one example...Bernie couldn't come up with one. He knows there is none.

[artislife]

22. hmmm hmmmm.nt

[angrychair]

25. He is trying to be kind

See the Clintons never comment crimes, just surrounded themselves with people that did (see Whitewater, a total 15 people: friends, business partners and associates went to jail related to Whitewater).
In the case of her current financial "advisors", all come from criminal organizations like Goldman Sachs ( http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X81TI )

Funny thing is that $5 billion doesn't even come close recovering what they took or the damage they caused to people's lives. No one went to jail.
What's that old joke, "steal $100 your a thief, steal a billion dollars, you're a Wall St investment banker."

FYI, the thief goes to jail, the investment banker is a free and clear millionaire.

People connected to organizations involved in LIBOR scandal, Panama Papers and the 2007 economic crash, all work for the Clinton campaign.

[arcane1]

2. Desperation stinks.

[Bill USA]

4. well, don't stand down wind of Bernie then...

[Surya Gayatri]

5. Overwhelming pong...

[Bill USA]

7. does that mean being blind to Bernies votes the OP enumerates?

May 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 7, Vote # 83, 5/8/91)

November 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 3371, Vote #443, 11/26/91)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #564, 11/10/93)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the final version of the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #614, 11/22/93)

Bernie Sanders voted for the Gekas Amendment to the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #559, 11/10/93; CQ Floor Votes, 11/10/93)

This three-day default proceed, also known as the Charleston loophole, allowed Dylan Roof to obtain a gun. [New York Times, 7/11/15]

Bernie Sanders opposed a seven-day waiting period for firearms purchases so gun owners wouldn’t “get caught up in a bureaucracy.” (Rutland Herald, 3/30/91)

Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms (PLCAA) in Arms Act which, “shields gun makers and dealers from most liability when their firearms are used criminally.” (Slate, 5/6/15, House Roll Call 534, 10/20/05)

[artislife]

23. Compared to this OP, he smells likes roses

this op...like 3 day old fish.

[Bill USA]

26. I agree the conduct revealed in OP stinks, but those are the facts

Bernie modulated his position, and the NRA decided to go after his Republican opponent Peter Smith, pouring money into ads opposing Smith, which they knew would benefit Bernie. NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre endorsed Bernie, writing to members: “Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than Peter Smith.” It worked.

Bernie won. And he kept his word.

According to Correct the Record:

May 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 7, Vote # 83, 5/8/91)

November 1991: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 3371, Vote #443, 11/26/91)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #564, 11/10/93)

November 1993: Bernie Sanders voted against the final version of the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #614, 11/22/93)

Bernie Sanders voted for the Gekas Amendment to the Brady Bill. (H R 1025, Vote #559, 11/10/93; CQ Floor Votes, 11/10/93)

This three-day default proceed, also known as the Charleston loophole, allowed Dylan Roof to obtain a gun. [New York Times, 7/11/15]

Bernie Sanders opposed a seven-day waiting period for firearms purchases so gun owners wouldn’t “get caught up in a bureaucracy.” (Rutland Herald, 3/30/91)

Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms (PLCAA) in Arms Act which, “shields gun makers and dealers from most liability when their firearms are used criminally.” (Slate, 5/6/15, House Roll Call 534, 10/20/05)

[artislife]

27. hahahahahaha

I see your transparency page and know you are full of horse manure...just here to stir...well so long, sucker.

[mike_c]

6. by that line of reasoning, what should we make of the millions...

...that Wall Street has given to Senator Clinton? Quid pro quo indeed. The best part? She got to pocket it as personal income with the promise of campaign donations later.

[Jefferson23]

10. Don't hold your breath waiting for that one. n/t

[Bill USA]

17. there is no line of Reasoning by Bernie fans only magical thinking. Got an example of quid pro quo?

Oh, yeah, in Bernie-land evidence is not needed for a conclusion.

It works that way in the land of Oz too....

[ibegurpard]

9. Lol

Horseshit

[Bill USA]

18. IOW....

[workinclasszero]

11. I guess the NRA is very happy with their Bernie investment

It sucks for the victims of gun violence though.

[imagine2015]

13. And that's why Bernie is a billionaire today and that's why the NRA gave Bernie a D- rating!

More propaganda b.s.

[pandr32]

16. No

It is what it is.

[Octafish]

15. WikiLeaks exposed secret government warmongering.

Why WikiLeaks Matters

Greg Mitchell | January 13, 2011
The Nation

EXCERPT...

For balance, then, it's important to review a small sample of what we have learned thanks to WikiLeaks since April and the release of the "Collateral Murder" US helicopter video, which showed the killing of two Reuters journalists, among others. It's necessary to do this because most in the US media, after brief coverage, provided little follow-up. Consider the scope of even this very limited list of revelations (and I have not even included the shockers that some feel helped spark this month's revolt in Tunisia):

§?The Saudis, our allies, are among the leading funders of international terrorism.

§?The scale of corruption in Afghanistan tops even the worst estimates. President Hamid Karzai regularly releases major drug dealers who have political connections. His half-brother is a major drug operator.

SNIP...

§?The British government assured Washington that our interests would be protected in its "independent" public inquiry into the Iraq War.

§?The Pakistani government has allowed its intelligence unit to hold strategy sessions with the Taliban. Despite longstanding denials, the United States has indeed been conducting special ops inside Pakistan and taking part in joint operations with the Pakistanis.

SNIP...

§ The U.S. embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country which opposed genetically modified (GM) crops.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/article/157729/why-wikileaks-matters#

[reformist2]

20. OK, and Wall Street is spening MILLIONS to get Hillary elected right now...

...what do you think she might do, if elected???

[Bill USA]

24. Republican Operatives Try to Help Bernie Sanders: "We'll win every state if Bernie's their nominee"

.. a little look at reality


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511276724

[Live and Learn]

21. How Rovian of you. nt

[jmg257]

28. I like him more and more. And he is very consistent. nt