Bernie Releases TWO items of interest today. His speech behind closed doors at the Vatican AND

[jillan]

his 2014 tax returns.

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/9900B87E8AE6AF0C85257EB4004E9F66/$file/B_Sanders_2014.pdf

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/04/15/full-text-bernie-sanders-speech-at-the-vatican/

Your turn Hillary.

[mike_c]

1. I REALLY want to know what Senator Clinton had to say to Wall Street bankers...

...that was worth millions of dollars to them for an hour of her time.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Something along these lines.

[pdsimdars]

2. I N T E G R I T Y

Where's yours Hillary?

[MFM008]

3. now he can release the rest

1 year is all Romney.

[still_one]

7. More than that not given, no schedule A B and C, and as you said

only one year, and not even current year

I would like to know what the 56K of deductions were also

[aquamarina]

17. O.F.F.S.

I make less than half of what BS makes and my deductions are nearly $27k - mostly in the form of mortgage interest and real estate taxes. The rest is for depreciation on a rental property and charitable contributions. This return is about as simple as it gets. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with it or that he is hiding anything. Good flipping grief.

[Sheepshank]

31. my parents made 25% of what Bernie makes and have much more than $300K in assets

[still_one]

41. So if Hillary released this, and said it was her complete returns, everyone here at DU would not

inquire about deductions, schedule C, etc.

[aquamarina]

59. Yes, absolutely.

This is a typical return for the majority of upper middle class taxpayers. It becomes more of an issue when the person earns the majority of their money from other than wages. See John McCain, Mitt Romney, any of the Bushes, Diane Feinstein, John Kerry. These are multi-multi millionaires who's taxable incomes are much more complicated and complex and require a little more explanation. A return like Sander's doesn't leave a lot of room for questionable/suspect deductions.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

29. While I dont expect there to be anything crazy on the schedules, the return is kind of

meaningless without them.

[aquamarina]

34. Why is it meaningless?

His return shows, income, it shows deductions, it shows what he paid in taxes.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

37. Meaningless is too harsh, but not showing what the deductions were is leaving a big part

of the story out.

I doubt anything of interest is in there, mind you, but that is where the meat of the return is once you know the income and where it comes from.

[aquamarina]

45. Well, we know where the income comes from.

It comes from his job as a senator, pensions and Social Security. And $59k may seem like an awful lot in deductions but in reality it isn't. You factor in mortgage interest, real estate taxes, deductions from medical, charity, that probably about sums it up. But I get that it would be neat to know who or if he is giving any money to charity. Perhaps the medical deductions are for his wife and perhaps she doesn't want that info out in the public since they filed joint/married. Just saying.

[still_one]

4. That does not list what his 56k itemized deductions were, which charities, etc

or schedule C, expenses, income etc

and not 2015

[jillan]

10. The charities and itemized deduction are there! Under the state forms.

[geek tragedy]

23. no they're not. Itemizied deductions are listed on Schedule A

and that is not there

[morningfog]

28. What nefarious connections is he hiding with that 57k?!!!?!?I saw a woman have a chance encounter wi

[still_one]

48. none, except it would be interesting to know how much he donates to charity, how much interest he

pays on any mortgages, etc. If there were medical deductions, professional dues or organizations and the like

[noiretextatique]

5. He still needs to release Schs A and C

To shut people up. He released the 1040 a while ago.

[still_one]

42. I have no doubt everything will be above board, but this is last years returns, and he really should

have either released the complete 2014 tax returns, or wait until they were available before releasing them

[geek tragedy]

6. that's not the complete tax return.

he still didn't release the Schedule A, which is the most important part--the part that explains why he's taking such large deductions.

He's hiding something, still.

[Bobbie Jo]

11. Yep

Somehow I didn't think we would see them today.

[still_one]

14. Ya noticed that too. Schedule A, B, and C at a minimum, but they should

release the complete returns

56K of deductions for what? Mortgage, charity, property tax, and or other things

In addition, a schedule C was done so what was the income, expenses, etc

Details are everything

[hellofromreddit]

18. Called it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1743926

[geek tragedy]

20. No you didn't. That post was about the complete tax return being

disclosed.

This is not complete, It's missing the Schedule A, which itemizes the large deduction from personal income on the 1040.

[still_one]

44. and it is 2014, and there should be no problem releasing that. Really not sure what he is thinking

[workinclasszero]

26. Not complete?

Wow...whats the problem Bernie?

[geek tragedy]

27. That 1040 had already been released.

So he released absolutely nothing new from his 2014 return.

Something shady is going on.

[Marr]

30. Didn't you guys do this with Obama's birth certificate, too?

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. You detected that too

[yellerpup]

8. Beautiful speech.

Modest tax return.

[pangaia]

9. WAIT !!! Where is his Schedule C?

Schedule H, Schedule B, Schedule R-23?

The guy is definitely hiding something BIG !!

$46,000 in SS Income, WOW! I could live on that. I don't even get HALF that much. .. And I am 72 and just retired last year... sort of....

Just another2.46 percent-er. That's what.

[jillan]

43. 39000 of SS income from 2 people is about right.

[pangaia]

53. Oh, right.. 2 of them..

You do know I was being sarcastic, I hope.

[still_one]

46. I doubt he is hiding anything, but he should have release the complete returns for 2014, or indicate

that the complete return would shortly follow.

The OP gives the impression that this is the complete return and it isn't.

In respect for your case, if you started collecting SS at 62.5 you will collect less than if you wait until full retirement at 66.5, which should be for just yourself, at least 2600/month.

However, if you just retired, and then started collecting SS, you should be collecting about 3000/month if you started collecting at 70

The 46000 also includes his wife's social security. Either she is collecting her own, or 50% of his SS earnings I suspect

[Gomez163]

55. Well we should just trust him, after all, he is St Bernie the Incorruptible

[Sky Masterson]

12. Hell, He is a freaking Pauper next to most Senators

Hillary pulls more than that per Speech.

[fun n serious]

15. Not enough

8 YEARS BACK LONG FORM. That is where the issue is..

[beam me up scottie]

16. They claim he hides millions in offshore accounts, nothing he releases will prevent the smears.

The demands that he release his returns is just a diversion because they know Bernie isn't corrupt.

[Dragonfli]

21. They largely speak for only one who put out such diversions because they know Bernie isn't corrupt.

[beam me up scottie]

22. The dog whistles are getting louder too, he's "cheap", can't be trusted with money, etc.

Some even claim his campaign is funded by Israel.

[Dragonfli]

25. I know, my dog becomes quite agitated when I click certain posts, had to shut off the volume /nt

[Ed Suspicious]

38. They have no imagination. They only accuse him of shit their candidate does herself.

The are the Republican projectionists of the Democratic party.

If they accuse him of something you can be assured they're guilty of the same.

[beam me up scottie]

40. Yep, it's right out of Rove's playbook. Next they'll ask for his birth certificate.

[still_one]

47. who claimed that? I have never seen that

[beam me up scottie]

51. Well if you've never seen it then it must not have happened!

Just like the posts about his alleged ties to Israel, people keep claiming that never happened either.

[still_one]

52. That was from Dianne Rheem months ago, but frankly, it seems with your sarcasm that you really don't

want a conversation. Instead you prefer an argument, so have a nice day

[mike_c]

19. that sound you hear...?

It's the frantic moving of goal posts.

I want to know what Senator Clinton promises Wall Street oligarchs behind closed doors.

[geek tragedy]

24. no, actually it's the sound of the football landing

on the goal line instead of reaching the goalposts.

He did not release a full tax return.

Only the 1040 summary, not the Schedule A showing his proportionally large figure for itemized deductions.

[Marr]

32. You're reminding me of something...

[IamMab]

33. That's the same incomplete return which was previously available. No one is fooled by this.

Stop trying.

[SDJay]

35. We Will Never See Those Transcripts...

at least not because HRC releases them. She's taken too much heat and moved the goal posts too many times and too idiotically for there not to be some type of horrible, campaign-shredding quote or 2 or 7 in them. SBS could release every tax return he's ever filed, his birth certificate, his daily diary from 1947-56, the name, address and phone number of every woman he's ever dated... Guess what? They'd just come up with something else he hasn't released and once again refuse to release the transcripts.

The problem is, I'm worried that some repuke already has them and we'll all see them in October. I don't know if they do or not, but you gotta think that some scumbag on that side of the aisle has some sort of lead into what she said.

That's what I don't get - if she had put them out there when this first arose she probably would've taken some heat - probably about what she's taking now in terms of intensity - and then this would've blown over. Now? She's setting herself up to be completely blindsided.

[msanthrope]

36. That's not his tax return. Nt

[jillan]

39. You're right. It's Bugs Bunny's tax return.

[still_one]

50. No, that isn't what is being said. The OP said it was his tax returns, and it is not his complete

tax return. It is also for last years tax returns. So, unless he indicated that the complete return would follow, which the OP doesn't state, then it is not complete

[still_one]

56. no it isn't, and why the OP should change the content that it is essentially a summary of his 2014

return

[msanthrope]

57. Tuesday night. Nt

[still_one]

58. ...........

[noretreatnosurrender]

54. Excellent Speech

I'm glad that Bernie and his family got to attend.