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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:20 PM Apr 2016

I get that you are proud of your $27 contributions to Bernie

The general election will be fought against billionaires and $27 won't cut it.

Hillary is raising money for the general election fight and for Dems on the federal and state level.

Change takes more than a revolution, it costs big bucks.

To rid ourselves of Citizens United you first have to get in power which means playing by today's rules.

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I get that you are proud of your $27 contributions to Bernie (Original Post) upaloopa Apr 2016 OP
can't believe your lyin' eyes, eh? Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #1
That makes absolutely no sense upaloopa Apr 2016 #5
You and your facts! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #32
They think disarming themselves will be virtuous and make people support Bernie CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #2
A veritable Children's Crusade, then. How'd that first one work out? Oh, right. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #15
You think surrendering..... daleanime Apr 2016 #35
So we not fighting a candidate backed by billionaires right now? daleanime Apr 2016 #3
She's tapped out over 50% of her donors. bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #6
It doesn't matter how much he gets he is losing and will not be the nominee upaloopa Apr 2016 #12
aww...did I hurt your feelings? bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #20
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #21
I know, it hurts to admit it bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #22
Like I said it's like talking to a 3 year old upaloopa Apr 2016 #31
Whether you're talking to a 3 year old.... daleanime Apr 2016 #38
What does matter though, and I know you agree, is Bernie has proven that Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #30
I think we should have public financed elections upaloopa Apr 2016 #34
So she's justified in playing dirty then? Is that what you're saying? nt revbones Apr 2016 #7
When you start with "so" you are posting your words not mine upaloopa Apr 2016 #13
Sure. By that logic, anything I say is only my words revbones Apr 2016 #16
Oh no! He isn't funded by big monied interests! TCJ70 Apr 2016 #8
I wonder how many individual donations were needed for ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #9
$600K / $27 = 22,222.2 donations. IamMab Apr 2016 #18
I wonder if those 22,222 individuals (and embryo) feel that they got their money's worth. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #25
Free publicity, global renown and bitter tears from Hillary supporters? Priceless! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #28
Are you implying that Hillary won't support Downwinder Apr 2016 #10
Another dimwitted "must be the monster to fight the monster" post whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #11
Just let them put the tip in. Orsino Apr 2016 #14
So what you're saying is LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #17
Here's some more questions... brooklynite Apr 2016 #19
50 State Strategy Meteor Man Apr 2016 #33
Are you freaking kidding me?! KPN Apr 2016 #23
so show me where the DLC has been trying to get rid of it for the past 8 years Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #24
Scott Walkers campaign was backed by billionares AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #26
You realize... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #27
Lol, best excuse yet for her taking wall street money! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #29
Hillary is arming herself for the General Election, which is the smart thing to do. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #36
LOL! Politicalboi Apr 2016 #37
Sorry it's More important to get someone in power who jmg257 Apr 2016 #39

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
1. can't believe your lyin' eyes, eh?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

just because Sanders surpasses Clinton in contributions, you feel the need to hypothesize from your own dark denial. Too bad, but try again.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
4. She's tapped out over 50% of her donors.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie has only hit the limit with 3%. He can be just as competitive as anyone in the general.

Response to bobbobbins01 (Reply #4)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
12. It doesn't matter how much he gets he is losing and will not be the nominee
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

And tapped out donors are not the only ones who make up the potential number of donors.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
20. aww...did I hurt your feelings?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

Your candidate is weak on all fronts. She's down in national polls against Sanders, is less competitive against republicans, has terrible likability ratings, is scandal ridden, and can't raise as much money. Your horse is lame.

Response to bobbobbins01 (Reply #20)

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
38. Whether you're talking to a 3 year old....
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)

or some one who's a hundred and 3 years old, a weak candidate is still a weak candidate. I'm sorry about that, I wish it wasn't true but it is. But don't worry, there's a good chance that she won't lose and will therefore be able to maintain the status quo. Yeah.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
30. What does matter though, and I know you agree, is Bernie has proven that
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

a person can run without super pacs, wall street, etc., and raise a shit load of money.

This is important information for the future.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
34. I think we should have public financed elections
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

But we need to pass new laws and we are not in a position to do that. We need the PACs to get to a place where we won't need them in the future.

Bernie could never afford a general election campaign on $27 contributions

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
16. Sure. By that logic, anything I say is only my words
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

much as anything you say is yours. Doesn't change the fact that yours are saying she's justified in being corrupt because she needs to win and is unable to by being honest.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. I wonder how many individual donations were needed for ...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

... his recent trip. It must be very expensive for that many people to travel together ... and then there's things like security, accommodations, ground transportation, meals and tips (if any).

Note to Jury: The above statements represent my opinion. No DU rules or terms of service have been violated. It is not against the rules to have an opinion that differs from the Alerter.


 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
18. $600K / $27 = 22,222.2 donations.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

At least his family gets to stop being secret millionaires and can come into the open about it now.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. I wonder if those 22,222 individuals (and embryo) feel that they got their money's worth.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder if the FEC has rules against such expenditures and if they qualify as legitimate campaign expenses. I don't know, I'm just wondering and asking out loud.

Note to Jury: The above statements and questions represent my opinion and the things I'm curious about. No DU rules or terms of service have been violated. It is not against the rules to have an opinion that differs from the Alerter, nor to ask questions that have possible answers that the Alerter would prefer not to hear.


 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
28. Free publicity, global renown and bitter tears from Hillary supporters? Priceless!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016


Think I'll go donate again. ..

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
17. So what you're saying is
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

we can't win unless we vote for the super-rich candidate who brings in the millions from super-rich donors and super-rich corporations, who will then totally regulate and tax super-rich people and super-rich corporations because something or other Bernie is bad.

How exactly does that work?

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
19. Here's some more questions...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders will need 10X his current fundraising for the GE. Are you good for your share?

Sanders will need, at a minimum, a Democratic Senate. There are 10 competetive races. How many are you in for?

Sanders will need a strong 50-State Strategy for voter registration, and GOTV for both him and the down-ballot races. How many States are you chipping in for?

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
33. 50 State Strategy
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

You mean the one the DNC threw under the bus? Howard Dean's 50 state strategy that was unacceptable because it required including primary support for progressive dems?

Is the Democratic Party gonna fold up the Big Tent and go home if Bernie wins the nomination?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
27. You realize...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016

If Sanders gets into the GE he will have the full backing of the Democratic party they will not let Sanders just fail.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
36. Hillary is arming herself for the General Election, which is the smart thing to do.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

She knows that to go up against the right-wing money she truly needs a 'war chest'. Just because you don't like the rules, doesn't mean you can ignore them. She needs to win in order to have any hope of appointing a Supreme Court justice who will be on the side of overturning Citizens United (and SpeechNow). I'm glad she is a smart politician who knows how to win.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
37. LOL!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

$27.00 will do it. You just can't get that the "people" want Bernie. Big business wants Hillary. Don't worry about us.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
39. Sorry it's More important to get someone in power who
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't part of that system. And banking considerable coin from playing it perfectly.

nothing changes...too much $$$.

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