Quote of the day on the debates

[pinebox]

---Jim Bognet

Wait for it....wait.........BOOM!

[Umbral18]

1. Kicking for the phrase 'fundamentally flawed', spin that as sexist. nt

[JoePhilly]

2. Another "losing is winning" story.

Most people won't even start thinking about the elections until after the conventions.

[IamMab]

4. Bernie: We're going to lose to win so much, you're going to get tired of losing to win! nt

[pinebox]

19. From the same side who says the revolution didn't happen

yet it is and it continues to. Think about it. At the start Bernie had a 3% name recognition & Hillary, being the most famous woman in the world had 99% name recognition.

She should have put this away ages ago. She hasn't and yet you can't quite figure it out can you?

Do you know why? Because of the majority of America sees Hillary as an entitled corrupt politician who they don't trust.
That's why.

[amborin]

3. she was supposed to have this wrapped up months ago; instead, she lost the last 7 out of 8

primaries/caucuses and is struggling to win NY.

Her supporters don't want to admit it, but this embarrassingly reveals her extreme weakness as a candidate, and
rightfully so, given her unethical behavior, her blatant lies, her frightful advocacy of reckless regime change, etc.

[reddread]

5. and it foretells the future

quite clearly.

[IamMab]

6. Except the Democratic Primary is structured to encourage long contests and prevent frontrunners

from dominating. It's the express purpose of proportional delegates. "She was supposed to have won by now" is a bullshit argument because there's no way for a contested Democratic Primary to end early.

[amborin]

7. LOL! It frontloads w/ conservative states, thus favoring a conservative candidate; but the

main argument remains: Hillary initially had gigantic leads in all the polls, and according to all the press releases, she was the inevitable candidate destined for the nomination.

Instead, her ratings have steadily declined, both among Democrats and more generally, and she is fighting for the nomination against a come-from-behind Senator from Vermont.

[IamMab]

8. The calendar isn't exactly the same every year.

Her lead isn't from "red states." It's from "more voters." And I think that's what galls folks like you, because you know that maligning them as "red states" doesn't change the vote count. Clinton won a single state, Florida, that has more people than Bernie's wins in "8 out of the last 9 states." And she won it YUUUGE.

So whatever, comfort yourself with your coded language. It's all you've got left.

[amborin]

10. lots of baseless accusations here; and a deflection from the bitter truth about HRC: she is a weak

candidate whose mendacious character is on full display

[IamMab]

12. Her lead is from more voters, not "red states." Deal with it.

Deal with it.

And in case you missed it, "Deal with it."

[Punkingal]

9. Didn't they notice in 2008 that she was fundamentally flawed?

[Hiraeth]

15. that is what really astounds me. could they not feel the tide turning? are they that obtuse

are you and I just more in tune with the universe? what? I don't get it.

[MisterP]

16. against a competitive but establishment candidate! the establishment thinks it's representing

the voters adequately enough--after all, Dems keep voting for them and, in their paradigm, they're losing starting 2010 only because the cranky left and mushy middle keep staying at home or voting Pub: voters have to be lectured and brought into line

08 was in fact devastating for her, and she only agreed late 14 when the internals showed that she'd be competitive against even Biden--that it'd be a sure shot against even RNC-backed Jeb
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/10/hillary-clinton-inside-circle-huma-abedin

as the leftmost candidate, an open demsoc as the GOP is flogging Obama as a Commie, he shouldn't even have broken Kucinich's 4%--he shouldn't be acceptable in such a political climate, and that's why the Dems had given up on pushing for things like those he proposes: there's no way to get them passed with a Senate that's only 30-40% libdems, you silly, demanding goslings!

so it should've been over at several points: after SC, after Super Tuesday, after Super Tuesday Too, after NY; even if he swore to stay in until CA his trendline wouldn't be enough to let him survive the convention


her plan is to run against Trump after he emerged (there's even talk of her asking him to run): she should not be having to spend months and months out campaigning, fundraising, debating, and overall defending her policies from the left and the party having been tooled to sweep her into the WH (after all it's not really distorting the campaign to block a candidate who can't crack 20%)

above all she resents the missteps, smears, and unforced errors she was "forced into" because she has to run a tightening primary: not only is it shocking for her and her circle, but people are condemning the policies she sees as justified or necessary for the greater good--without Sanders, Goldman Sachs speeches, $353,000 seats with the Clooneys, Iraq, Honduras, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Pakistan, Laureate Education, etc. etc etcetc would all be non-dealbreakers: we'd grumble and shout on DU and AlterNet but ultimately they wouldn't impact the election or become political issues; Berta Caceres would get in the news, but much more casually--easier to lose in the news cycle rather than a symbol of what the Dems have to fight against within the party

[pdsimdars]

11. I can only disagree with one minor thing

That is not a BOOM . . . . it deserves to be elevated to a KA-BOOM !

[riderinthestorm]

13. Keeping his message out there all the way to the convention! Go Bernie! nt

[Hiraeth]

14. TRUTH OUT !!

BOO-YAH muthafuckas !!

[vintx]

17. K&R

[frylock]

18. Spot on, and you could tell by the seething, angry look on her face throughout the debate.

She's thinking "What the fuck am I still doing up here with this guy??!"

[pdsimdars]

20. I liked the Debate Summary someone posted this AM