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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:36 AM Apr 2016

In debate: Hillary again smeared Pres. Obama, to try to defend her huge speaking fees:

a smear is an untrue and fabricated criticism of someone, and Hillary lobbed at least one against President Obama during the debate, according to today's NY Times article about the debate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/us/politics/democratic-debate.html?&target=comments&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&modref=HPCommentsRefer&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0#commentsContainer


"make no mistake about it---this is not just an attack on me, it's an attack on President Obama," Mrs. Clinton said about the criticism of her use of a "super PAC" and her acceptance of big-money contributions.



She has done this repeatedly before. She smears Pres. Obama and falsely tarnishes his record to try to con voters.

President Obama did get some campaign donations from big money and big banks.

But Hillary has been getting the campaign donations from Big Money, AND, she is personally profiting from getting the huge speaking fees from Big Money--and this money goes straight into her personal bank account, not to her campaign.

She shamelessly maligns Obama, repeatedly.
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In debate: Hillary again smeared Pres. Obama, to try to defend her huge speaking fees: (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
you call that a smear? Pathetic grasping Sheepshank Apr 2016 #1
No, it's just an out and out lie... Human101948 Apr 2016 #8
why support her lies? she tried to con the viewers into thinking her receipt of Big Money was just l amborin Apr 2016 #9
Speaking fees are private transactions. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #12
Romney's speech was private too. dogman Apr 2016 #18
And someone video taped it & exposed.....someone could have made a secret tape of Hillary Sheepshank Apr 2016 #19
When she releases the transcripts, we'll know. dogman Apr 2016 #21
I wouldn't release them either...this was a private business transaction Sheepshank Apr 2016 #27
They must be some awesome speeches to have that much value. dogman Apr 2016 #29
I would imagine the speech is part of the cost, but the person delivering it has some value too. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #30
I think it would depend on the message. dogman Apr 2016 #31
We'll probably find out in October. frylock Apr 2016 #24
Don't forget when she tried to pin Libya on him as well. bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #2
That was my impression as well - when Obama did someting right, hedgehog Apr 2016 #20
Like a human shield. frylock Apr 2016 #25
yes, the ultimate cowardice: she won't own up to her massive failings amborin Apr 2016 #28
DNC (Hillary and Debbie) rolls back Obama ban on contributions from federal lobbyists Human101948 Apr 2016 #3
Obama doesn't care. He's already been president. She's been given the ok to say whateva she needs to timlot Apr 2016 #4
She uses Obama when it is convenient and discards him when it's not. Simple as that. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #5
Obama is lucky to have you Bernie folks defending him. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #6
And Hillary is grateful for your staunch loyalty while she lies her ass off... Human101948 Apr 2016 #10
Life seems so bleek for you guys. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #11
Must be exhausting having to try 24/7 to put us in our place... Human101948 Apr 2016 #13
Watching the perpetually disgruntled hyperventilate has become ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #16
No one is hyperventilating , that's your heavy breathing Human101948 Apr 2016 #32
She'll smear him constantly....unless she's speaking at an African-American church of course. marmar Apr 2016 #7
Can someone in the Sanders campaign tell him to stop doing this? onehandle Apr 2016 #14
Yes, he should be content and relaxed with the status quo as Hillary is... Human101948 Apr 2016 #15
She stands behind him, he's her human shield. dogman Apr 2016 #17
She smears him and hides behind him oldandhappy Apr 2016 #22
You're trying to hard CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #23
"He did it too!" Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #26
The Clintons are damaging his legacy, yet he supports her. It makes no sense. Skwmom Apr 2016 #33
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
8. No, it's just an out and out lie...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016
For the most part, they said, the DNC has returned to business as usual, pre-2008. The DNC has even named a finance director specifically for PAC donations who has recently emailed prospective donors to let them know that they can now contribute again, according to an email that was reviewed by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

amborin

(16,631 posts)
9. why support her lies? she tried to con the viewers into thinking her receipt of Big Money was just l
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

like Obama's receipt of Big Money. But they are two radically different types of Big Money influence. Obama's were campaign donations, whereas Hillary personally profited from the huge speaking fees.

To absolve her of receiving the money and lying about it is pathetic

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. Speaking fees are private transactions.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

The Bernie Bros insistence that the fees and especially the transcripts are part of the public purview is absolutely ridiculous. Industries paid money and fees for the speeches, and Bernie Bros want them for free...it's pathetic and without merit.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
19. And someone video taped it & exposed.....someone could have made a secret tape of Hillary
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

apparently there wasn't anything damning to tape?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
27. I wouldn't release them either...this was a private business transaction
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

...and Bernie Bros want for free what other have paid for. It's a poor business decision that would set a horrible precedence in private business transactions. If there was something Romney damming, you can bet it would have been leaked.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
29. They must be some awesome speeches to have that much value.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

A precedence of transparency is horrible? Ok.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
30. I would imagine the speech is part of the cost, but the person delivering it has some value too.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

the very same speeches could be delivered by me, and Obama...which would garner the bigger fees?

dogman

(6,073 posts)
31. I think it would depend on the message.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

I believe they would pay more to hear what they want than what they don't want. It would also depend on how much they owed whom.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
2. Don't forget when she tried to pin Libya on him as well.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

She just cowers behind him most of the time, then throws him under the bus as necessary. She refuses to take personal responsibility for anything.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
20. That was my impression as well - when Obama did someting right,
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

it's because Hillary told him what to do. When he did something wrong,it was all his fault! I was disappointed that the reliance on Blumenthal for advice on Libya didn't come up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/30/blumenthal-wrote-secretary-clinton-about-more-than-libya-syria-and-israel-too/

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. DNC (Hillary and Debbie) rolls back Obama ban on contributions from federal lobbyists
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016
The Democratic National Committee has rolled back restrictions introduced by presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2008 that banned donations from federal lobbyists and political action committees.

The decision was viewed with disappointment Friday morning by good government activists who saw it as a step backward in the effort to limit special interest influence in Washington. Some suggested it could provide an advantage to Hillary Clinton’s fundraising efforts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html


When people point out how Hillary is bankrolling down ticket Dems, this is where the moola comes from.
 

timlot

(456 posts)
4. Obama doesn't care. He's already been president. She's been given the ok to say whateva she needs to
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:42 AM
Apr 2016
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
32. No one is hyperventilating , that's your heavy breathing
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

as you flagellate yourself imagining the distress that you inflict on poor defenseless Bernie Bros with your mighty intellect.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
14. Can someone in the Sanders campaign tell him to stop doing this?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

It works fine on MSNBC shows, when he was a guest. But now that he is running for President, it's not a good thing.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
17. She stands behind him, he's her human shield.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

She supports everything he has done or is doing, unless it has negative effect, then it's his fault.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
22. She smears him and hides behind him
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

and he makes pathetic statements of support.

Disgusted with both of them at this point. But I am grateful he is the president. Very grateful.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
23. You're trying to hard
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

Obama supporters...true Obama supporters...know Berners can't stand PBO. Bernie can't either, which is why he wanted him fired in 2012.

Your attempts at triangulation aren't going to make me want to support Bernie.

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