What bothered me most was the smirk.

[kristopher]

Whenever she pulled one of her pre-planted smears (ex NYDN interview interpretations) she would smirk in a way that I've only seen one other pol do - yes, that's the Smirking Chimp himself.

I didn't like him, his policies, nor his dishonest method of governing. I think a Hillary administration would be at least as bad and for exactly the same reasons. Dishonest, bad judgement, and violently churning the people of the world to keep the economic cream on the top.

Bernie 2016 - please.

[Awknid]

1. I agree

[CentralCoaster]

2. Horrid expressions and sounds, and body language. You're right.

Smugness personified.

Even while it was her turn, she'd stare at him then adopt that smirky smile and scan the audience with a gaze of superiority.

It's like the worst kind of behavior found in a suburban high school cafeteria.

He's the real deal, she's the empty hearted know-it-all.

Yuck!

[Land of Enchantment]

74. Well said. Don't hold back. nt

[Punkingal]

3. Don't forget the simmering anger beneath the smirk.

People who call Bernie angry must not be paying any attention to her. Her internal polling must be awful.

[senz]

29. Yes, it's palpable. Plus, she smirks more & laughs when angry or malicious.

She has become quite tense, lately. Feels like 2008 all over again.

Bernie only smiles/laughs when he's pleased or amused -- which SO natural and non-politician of him.

[whathehell]

82. To be fair, Bernie laughed at her comments too..

Though I didn't see him smirking.

[senz]

83. He did laugh when she repeated her lie about his gun control stance

I think it was an "oh no here we go again" laugh.

[whathehell]

84. He laughed at least three different times, which is fine by me, 'cause

she was doing the same thing, and I'm a Bernie supporter.

[senz]

85. There's a difference. She smirks "about him" to the audience

the same way rude people do in group conversations -- roll their eyes, smirk with the others while someone they don't like is talking.

Bernie wasn't playing that game; he would just look down and laugh to himself. He was reacting to the content of what she said, not to her as a person.

Her smirks and laughter were purposeful assaults; his was pure reaction. There is a big difference.

[whathehell]

86. Yeah, well, I never said anything about the smirks, just the laughter

but you're right, in that Hillary's smirks did seem nasty and I didn't see Bernie doing that.

[senz]

87. Okay, that's fair.

[whathehell]

88. Sure. n/t

[xloadiex]

30. You mean like this?

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[Lars39]

45. The look on his face!

I feel bad for him having to have first hand exposure to that anger.

[grasswire]

50. great photo

I am sure that millions of Americans can identify with his feeling at that moment. I feel so sorry for Bill and Chelsea.

[trueblue2007]

54. you mean BERNIE'S ANGER and the way he shows disgust towards women.

[NowSam]

65. Quite an imagination you have

I see no contempt towards women from this true progressive, Bernie Sanders. I see nothing but contempt for the electorate from Hillary Clinton. Strange how we can see these candidates so differently.

[senz]

70. Disgust toward her vile dishonesty.

He is a moral human being and moral human beings find corrupt and unethical individuals contemptible.

Bernie is one of the most nonsexist people on the planet.

[hopeforchange2008]

72. If it was during the debate, it was no doubt due to her misrepresenting something.

Choose any topic and she figure out a way to make her an 'artful smear'. It is nauseating. We're lucky he just looked at her that way. I've have vomited.

[Punkingal]

73. No i don't mean Bernie's anger, I mean her anger. it was palpable.

And it's fucking bullshit to say Bernie does not respect women. Go sell that lie somewhere else.

[.99center]

81. Such vileness

One question from a progressive activist.
11 hours of being questioned by republicans.

Were all aware that she go's for the throat when going after progressives, where's that same passion towards republicans?

[djean111]

4. I agree.

I imagine this will get alerted on by the flying monkeys, though - "You compared Hillary to Shrub!!!!!!! How can a Democrat do that!!!!!!" The answer is deeds, not words, but all they go by is whatever words they are issued for the day.

[Nyan]

5. Smirking...It's a sign of weakness. Don't be too bothered by it.

I don't think she smirked because she felt superior per se, but merely because she was trying to assert superiority.
It's a facade -you wanna project confidence, but you're not all that confident in reality. Especially in these contexts such as debate, people tend to smirk when they feel like they're not in the position of strength. Mitt Romney smirked a lot in the debate against Obama.

[kgnu_fan]

6. you said it

[earthside]

7. Hillary is an aristo.

There is a reason her 'unlikeable' numbers are so high.

It is not just because of her flip-flopping and her checkered scandalous past ... it is because she always has been conceited.

Her personality exudes a sense of privilege, an aura that she really deserves to be treated as political royalty.

The vote for president is a very personal one that for most people goes beyond just issues -- we have to live with this person for four years, they come into our homes on TV, in the news, in discussions, etc.

Sometimes we elect people who have prickly personalities as president, but we usually regret it.
Hillary is more Richard Nixon, in my opinion, than Shrub (partly because G. W. Bush actually lost, but the SCOTUS made sure he got in anyway -- so we weren't fooled, we were gamed).

Sen. Sanders is polling very well on the how people like him -- he will win against Cruz or Trump.

Clinton will lose against even Cruz or Trump because she is a known unlikeable candidate -- she starts with a huge deficit since even now a lot of people just don't know that much about Cruz or Trump -- but they already know they don't like Hillary.

The Hillary Smirk has certainly become more obvious as her irritation at not being proclaimed 'Queen of the Party' by now.
Heaven help the United States it Mrs. Clinton is ever president. indeed: Bernie 2016 - please.

[VulgarPoet]

17. There's GOT to be a way to formulate an "Aristocrats" joke about HRC. nt

[Hiraeth]

23. uuoooh ; genius. maybe you just did.

[VulgarPoet]

26. I'm saving it for my parting shot.

[Hiraeth]

27. c ya over at JPR if and when? what fun!

[VulgarPoet]

32. Aye. I dunno about the rest of the group, but I'll already have to kowtow to a corporate john

if they get the presidency; assuming I'm not medical's out by then. I don't intend on staying here and supporting her.

[Hiraeth]

34. yeah, my last hurrah, too

[Fairgo]

75. Please sell tickets

I love a good "aristocrats" joke

[Joob]

8. Oh I thought you were talking about Hillary's smirk when she first came out. That shit was creepy.

[amborin]

9. agree; and her war mongering means she could easily be way WORSE

[EndElectoral]

10. The physical signs of resentment were very apparent last night in her Body Lang.

[BernieforPres2016]

11. She started with a clear strategy to cackle, mock and condescend to Bernie

But when Bernie hit her upside the head on the big money issues perhaps 10 minutes in, she got visibly angry and the cackling strategy went out the window. Then when it got to her propensity to favor regime change in the second hour, she went into Colonel Jessup mode, telling us that we need her on that wall.

As Mike Tyson said: "Everybody has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

[pdsimdars]

19. nice

[farleftlib]

89. ^^This^^

Spot on analysis.

[Else You Are Mad]

12. I watched the debate

On TYT so I only had the audio but I could hear her smugness when she delivered her prescripted 'zingers' it was unbearable.

[kimbutgar]

13. After 45 minutes my hubby and I turned it off. It just got too nasty.

[apnu]

28. Well that's what everybody wanted.

Nasty debate brawling. Die hard Bernie and Hillary people wanted a mud fest. And today everybody is declaring themselves the winner. This debate was pointless and changed nothing. Most debates are. In today's hyper-connected world, debates do not swing undecideds much. Its just a part of the "infotainment" circus.

[LexVegas]

14. There it is. nt

[snooper2]

15. now Hillary = Bush LOL, I believe this is the one thousand fifty third time GDP jumped shark

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

[pdsimdars]

22. AS in "walks like a duck"

[snooper2]

24. did you hear that that bird got eaten by a cat? (re- your sig)

[senz]

33. Your sig line is pretending to be anti-Clinton.

Maybe you should send it to bed without any supper.

[snooper2]

40. I'm going to have to hold my nose and vote straight D...all choices suck

watching both sides fight each other in GD-P is pretty entertaining though


Interesting enough, "The Purge- Election Year" comes out on July 1st. One way or another I see a purge coming at DU around that time frame. Just waiting to see which side takes the hits LOL-

[senz]

46. You enjoy watching people being purged?

Okay, but please don't ever run for office.

[snooper2]

47. Don't worry, I won't run for office LOL- The trolls will be purged for sure-

It will be pretty entertaining to be sure...

[Orsino]

16. In the guarded language of political campaigns, we tend to see what we want to see.

I avoid watching speeches, and tend to discount debate performances. I try to, anyway, perhaps because I think I can be swayed unduly.

[BernieforPres2016]

25. It's very important to me

Body language and other non verbal behaviors are a critical part of communication to me.

[randome]

18. So appearances count, then?

Clinton does not come across as entirely comfortable when giving speeches to large crowds. Big deal.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[Impedimentus]

20. Hillary does the Bush smirk better than Bush - he must be incensed.

Maybe he'll paint a portrait of her?

FEEL THE BERN - 2106

[Tarc]

21. I'd smirk too if confronted with Sanders' get-off-my-lawn finger-waving sarcasm

What we witnessed last night was essentially a 2-hour mansplain.

[floriduck]

31. She certainly didn't look like she was wearing a straight jacket.

[Go Vols]

35. Looked more like a raincoat.

[BreakfastClub]

37. Great. Now we're making fun of her outfits? Sexism is alive and well. nt

[floriduck]

41. RIIIIIGGGHHHTT!

Raincoats are only made and sold to women. How 'bout you run along and find a real fire to douse? Let's hope other Hill fans are not as overly sensitive as you are.

[grasswire]

52. that's what the pundits said last night.

Raincoat.

[senz]

38. Except he couldn't get a word in edgewise.

She is verbally aggressive and domineering.

[passiveporcupine]

63. just like her foreign policy

and her support for the crime bill, and her support for Israel's excessive responses, and her support for regime change and no fly zones, and just everything about her.

[hopeforchange2008]

55. The mansplaining was done by Hillary.

She held forth with desperation.

[Tarc]

57. # < 200

The word does not mean what you think it means, apparently.

[hopeforchange2008]

58. I know what it means - she talked down to and over anyone on the stage.

[Tarc]

60. Poor l'il poppet

Sanders fans just don't like hearing the word "no", it seems.

[hopeforchange2008]

67. Sanders fans don't like Hillary fans who can't admit their candidate is a bully

[Tarc]

69. LOL

[hopeforchange2008]

71. As always, Hil fans ignore the true negatives about their candidate and instead cherish

their ill-founded sense of superiority.

Her negatives aren't high nationwide because she's highly regarded.

[BreakfastClub]

36. I can't stand the way he starts making faces and wagging his finger every single

time Hillary talks. He's awful.

[Onlooker]

39. Yes, many men have difficulty with her smirk, her cackling, ...

... she talks talks too much, she's not humble enough, she brought up women's rights in the debate, etc. There were a lot of complaints like that in the debate threads yesterday. Hillary really needs to be more ladylike. But, Bernie with his shouting and fierce body language (incessantly pointing), well that's okay because he's a guy and guys are cool no matter what.

[BlueStater]

42. She would still suck shit if she was a man or an alien or a red panda.

She's just awful in general. Literally the only reason I can think of to vote for her is that she isn't Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. That's it. Dreadful.

[Onlooker]

43. I guess you'd prefer the more demur Elizabeth Warren

There are many reasons not to support Hillary, but when one talks about her smirk, cackle, etc. it's just sexist bs.

[senz]

48. There is noting demure about Elizabeth Warren. She actually stands for something

and she lets people know where she stands with tremendous passion and enthusiasm.

But tell me: do you consider all the jokes about Dubya's smirk to be sexist?

[Onlooker]

49. This thread is about the smirk ...

... As far as Bush goes, no, the smirk is not sexist. Sexism, like racism and homophobia, is based on power. The powerful stereotype minorities and women. White straight men rarely lose power when they are defined negatively. If one called Bush a corporate whore, it's a lot different than using that expression on a woman. If one calls Bush a cracker, it's a lot different than calling a black man a n-. If one talks about Bush's smirk or a man's cackle, it's a lot different than using those expressions for a woman. Judge Hillary by her policies and her records, nothing else.

[passiveporcupine]

64. Was Bush's smirk sexist?

eom

[hobbit709]

44. There are at least 25 million constitutionally eligible women I'd vote for before I'd vote for HRC.

[LisaM]

51. LOL - I thought you meant Bernie's smirk!

I guess we all see what we want to see.

[arcane1]

53. W also liked to laugh when talking about killing leaders of countries n/t

[PufPuf23]

56. Hillary Clinton reminds me of Richard Nixon in policy and manner.

I am going to be angry and hold a grudge if forced to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I am a registered and voting Democratic Party member of nearly 45 years.

I was a career Federal employee (USDA) and earlier graduated a California high school and registered for the Vietnam draft when Nixon was POTUS.

[LyndaG]

59. As bad as Bush/Cheney?

Sorry, you lost me. She's pro-choice, pro ACA.

You may not like her, and you may feel your candidate is better, but saying she is no better than B/C ? Can't agree. People would lose rights if a Republican President is elected.

[senz]

66. She's prochoice up to a point: in the 3rd trimester she's willing to bargain.

[snowy owl]

61. Totally agree. That smirk should have annoyed all and Bernie totally smirk-free.

That may have hurt her. Fox Poll today shows HRC 46 to Bernie 44. But I always take polls with a grain of salt.

[2banon]

62. Bingo!

[matt819]

68. As with W

It is her default. And it is obnoxious.

[SHRED]

76. Hillary is part of the ruling class

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/15/release-clintons-wall-street-speeches-could-end-her-candidacy-president

[LibDemAlways]

79. Thanks for posting this. I have no doubt that

Hillary's speeches were nothing but complimentary toward the bankers. No one shells out a quarter of a million dollars to be called on the carpet and criticized.

I liken those speeches to a popular entertainer agreeing to perform at a private party hosted by a millionaire. The entertainer is paid big bucks to make the host and guests happy by playing exactly what they want snd expect to hear. No way is he going to insult the guy who's signing the check.

If the speeches weren't potentially embarrassing or politically harmful, she'd have released the transcripts by now.

[redstateblues]

77. I can't imagine having to hear Bernie shouting and wagging

His finger for for four years. He can't even remember how he planned to break up the big banks. An embarrasment. Definitely not ready for prime time

[BeanMusical]

80. Kick and R