2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe 269-269 scenario doesn't take into account the possibility
of the "faithless elector." In that (unlikely) 269-269 scenario, a single elector could throw the election to one candidate or the other by simply voting contrary to the outcome in his/her state. It has happened numerous times. Apparently, 24 states have laws to stop this. But I don't know about the other 26.
How likely is it that, in a tie, at least one elector would decide to be a "historic" figure and decide the election all by him(her)self?
Anyway, just as hurricanes and earthquakes are god's way of teaching us geography, so presidential elections are his/her/its/their way of teaching us civics.
Lots more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
courseofhistory
(801 posts)flowomo
(4,740 posts)it never hurts to know the ins and outs of the system. We can vote, and we can argue -- but we can also learn.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I'm still at 379!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)***** Official Pre-Debate Electoral College Predictions Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251162857
What's your forecast for the 2012 presidential election? Make your own electoral map:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Indiana there is an outside chance Obama could win. The turnout in Indiana in 2008 was pretty high and I think most people were shocked it went for Obama. If turnout is high again, that would be a good sign.
Arizona won't happen. I would bet against Arizona going red this time. I'm not trying to put down or demean any DUers in that state, but I still think it is too conservative to swing. I know what its like to live in a conservative area and it sucks (I grew up in a conservative part of Oregon). Now 4 years from now, that could be a much different story.
In any event, I think 332 will be a more likely outcome.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)If a Romney elector does not vote for Romney, but does not vote for Obama then it changes nothing. A tie means Romney wins. Makes you sick.
flowomo
(4,740 posts)the simple fact is a 269-269 result DOES NOT NECESSARILY mean the contest goes to the House, as many people assume.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The house really could do nothing about it if Obama was able to get an elector to switch to him.
It isn't likely to happen, but the 269 talk is all about election day results, not electoral college voting -- and it's the EC that matters. I am reminded that Andrew Johnson was certain to be convicted by the Senate, until one guy....
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The electoral votes are sealed and they are opened when the results are read in the joint session of Congress.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)... when they open the votes the winner is....
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the idea that this could happen is one hundred kinds of wrong.
doc03
(35,349 posts)bringing up all these scenarios where Romney may win by default. All this horse race bullshit is driving me crazy.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)But I'm thinking positive just for good measure. 333 is good, but I'm going for 379!
Everybody just keep the faith!
doc03
(35,349 posts)Amish country a while back "Most things people worry about never happen". So why speculate about it until it happens, chill out.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Absolutely goddamn right.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I don't see it as very likely to happen. He wins CO, VA, NV, and NH, but loses IA, OH, and WI.
But then again, you never know. Who expected the '00 debacle? I wouldn't worry about it. There's a greater likelihood of losing this outright 268-270.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Especially one that was suppose to vote for Romney that voted for Obama would have to go into the witness protection program for the rest of their life. Think of all the loonies who would go after that person.