Hillary resorts to republican talking point in debate

[Cosmic Kitten]

Hillary Clinton resorted to
right-wing, republican talking
point to attack Bernie Sanders.

Specifically, she referenced her
"rock-ribbed, up-by-your-bootstraps,
conservative Republican" father.

Hillary has previously stated that her
"political beliefs are rooted in the conservative
beliefs she was raised with"

And now she fights AGAINST progressive
ideas such as "tuition-free" college...
based on her CONSERVATIVE principles

"The free college offer, you know, my late father said if somebody promises you something for free, read the fine print. You read the fine print and here's what it says.

Hillary says we CANNOT afford
universal healthcare, or tuition-free college!

BUT, we can always afford WAR
and regime change, because apparently,
those things are free?

[Broward]

1. Not surprising considering she's a right-winger.

[Cosmic Kitten]

3. but but but... she's registered as a democrat?!?!

[RiverLover]

2. Those things bring immediate increase in profits for her benefactors. No profit in free college.

Geesh, if there's no money in it, there's no payoff.

Silly OP.

[Cosmic Kitten]

6. Student loan debt... the next big bubble to burst

Congratulations, Class of 2015.
You’re the Most Indebted Ever
(For Now)



http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/08/congratulations-class-of-2015-youre-the-most-indebted-ever-for-now/

[BernieforPres2016]

13. Absolutely right, student debt is the next debt bubble to burst

As John Oliver said in a 2014 piece and that graph confirms, student debt has more than tripled in the last 10 years. Incomes of new college graduates are probably flat at best overall, given how many college grads end up underemployed. So the percentage of income that must be devoted to student debt has gone way up, which limits the ability of young people to get married, start a family, buy a house, etc. Many of them are basically going to be debt slaves because student debt can't be erased even in bankruptcy.

John Oliver also pointed out that despite only having 13% of college student enrollment, 31% of student debt is associated with the corrupt "for profit college" industry, from which a very small percentage of students actually graduate and find suitable work in their field of study.

And it should be mentioned that Bill Clinton pocketed $16 million for 5 years of occasional public appearances on behalf of one of the sleazy for profit colleges, Laureate University. He went off the payroll there two weeks after Hillary announced she was running for President in 2016.

[Cosmic Kitten]

14. Wage-slaves, debt-slaves...all the same to oligarchs

Bill Clinton ended his role with a for-profit college system on Friday, nearly two weeks after his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, began her second presidential campaign and singled out that industry for criticism.

Mr. Clinton’s role as honorary chancellor for the college system, Laureate International Universities, was part of a five-year deal that began on April 24, 2010, an aide with his office said. The end of the agreement was first reported by Bloomberg Politics, and an aide to Mr. Clinton told Bloomberg that the separation had nothing to do with Mrs. Clinton’s campaign.

....

The university system — part of Laureate Education Inc., which according to Bloomberg is the world’s largest for-profit college chain — has been a seven-figure donor to the Clinton Foundation, giving between $1 million and $5 million, according to the foundation’s website. Laureate has also made five commitments through the Clinton Global Initiative.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/25/us/politics/bill-clinton-ends-role-with-laureate-chain-of-for-profit-colleges.html?_r=0

And yet, Bill expects us to believe
that his separation from Laureate
had NOTHING to do with Hillary's
run for office...
He must have become tired of
the cash flow and disinterested in
"the next generation of leaders"

[jfern]

4. You just have to be born well off like Hillary and go to college when tutition was cheap

and then you can easily afford it. Who needs free when you are born right?

[HooptieWagon]

5. She would be a more natural fit in the Republican Party...

...given her neoliberal economic platform and neoconservative foreign policy.

[Cosmic Kitten]

7. Most blue dogs and *new-democrats*...

are disenfranchised republicans.

[Kittycat]

8. Not surprising

[Cosmic Kitten]

11. LOL, love the flow chart!

[Kittycat]

19. More below - see post 18 just below

I was rushed earlier, and the regular link isn't clickable, because of an @ symbol. It's from a write-up by Tony Brasunas that another friend had shared a while back.

https://goo.gl/gw0k9f

[pdsimdars]

15. I think both Obama and Clinton need to be moved more to the right.

Just look at all the people Obama appointed to his cabinet and judiciary, Goldman Sachs and Wall Street. That is MILES from liberal.

[Kittycat]

18. Here's the write-up that goes w/it.

I was rushed earlier, and the regular link isn't clickable, because of an @ symbol. It's from a write-up by Tony Brasunas that another friend had shared a while back.

https://goo.gl/gw0k9f

[hereforthevoting]

9. As a person in my mid 30s

I wish I had known when I was young what I know now.

For example, that my family's success (for lack of a better term, at least a lot of ownership of "things&quot was partially due to 90's racism and that a whole lot of people exalted the Clintons for simply considering them human. That mandatory minimums harm the very fabric of society. That I would thank my lucky stars for the opportunity to go to school and work both full time while the leaders of this country by and large got their education funded by Daddy, or barring that, a part part part time job. Wonder what she had to sacrifice for her "free college". Probably not half of what I am, and guess what, I am STILL TAKING OUT LOANS TO PAY FOR PART OF IT.

UGHS. Thanks for the rant.

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. Is Hillary's Personal Story About Student Loans a Fabrication?

"I know [student loan forgiveness] works because Bill and I did that. We both borrowed money when we went to law school and we paid it back as a percentage of our income, so I could go to work at the Children's Defense Fund, not some big law firm that would pay me more. I wanted to do the work I loved...I want everyone to have that chance."

Fact or Fiction?

To me, the odds seem high that Hillary's story is just that, an utter fabrication. In all likelihood, her family had enough income to afford Yale Law School in the early 1970s. At that time, the tuition was well in reach for an upper-middle-class family. (I know several of Hillary's law school classmates from similar backgrounds who accumulated no debt.)

But there's a bigger problem with Hillary's story: The loan forgiveness program she refers to didn't even exist in the early 1970s. Yale Law School literature is quite clear on this:

Established in 1989, the Career Options Assistance Program (COAP) was one of the first loan forgiveness programs of its kind."

1989 is not 1973. Yet doesn't this description sounds similar to the story Hillary tells?

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillarys-personal-story-about-student-loans-fabrication

[hereforthevoting]

12. Interesting

I will admit I didn't research her personal story well as I had heard her conservative father paid from a casual source.

Thanks again, this time for the link! Very intriguing.

[pdsimdars]

16. She is Republican in thought and deed.

[Cosmic Kitten]

17. Ya think...

We can't afford education...
but we can afford regime change?

[pdsimdars]

25. A picture is always worth a thousand words. . . . nice one.

[libtodeath]

20. So do many of her supporters here.

[Cosmic Kitten]

22. 3rd-Way types are a cancer on the party

[amborin]

21. she was indistinguishable from one of them

[Cosmic Kitten]

23. The *New Democrats* are... republican lite.

[AzDar]

24. She's to the right of Trump on several issues...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

26. 25 years of propaganda from Karl Rove and the right wing has paid dividends.

[CrowCityDem]

27. Do you realize...

there can be more than one 'progressive' solution to a problem? Just because she doesn't agree with a half-cocked plan to give free tuition to students that relies on Republicans becoming progressive stalwarts doesn't mean she's a turncoat.

That's the kind of purity the Tea Party expects. We're supposed to realize that there isn't always one answer.