When CNN let Hillary slide on the transcripts but demanded to see Bernie's Papers

[GreatGazoo]

I really wish Bernie would have included in his answer:

"Tomorrow we will release more of our tax returns but Hillary will not release even one of her transcripts. We will release our boring tax returns but it seems like the transcripts of $225,000 speeches would be far more interesting."

or

"My opponent says she won't release her transcripts until 'everyone else does' -- I'm the only person left running against Hillary Clinton and I have released my transcripts. It's her turn now to make good on her promise to do likewise."

Also Hillary faked a laugh when she started her Sandy Hook answer (as she did with about 60% of her answers) and then said it was "no laughing matter."

Clinton is quite predictable in these debates and a prosecution lawyer would have set a trap for her in the opening minutes with something like:

"I predict that tonight we are going to hear my opponent try to laugh off every important question presented here, try to use Obama to shield herself from the actions she took as SoS, try to claim that there is no such thing as a conflict of interest and to try to claim that my positions have been hers all along."

and then briefly call it out every time she does one of those things.

[grasswire]

1. yes nt

[Arkansas Granny]

2. I don't understand the overwhelming need that some have to see these transcripts.

She was a private citizen when these speeches were made, not an elected or appointed government official. The speeches were made to a private audience who paid for the opportunity to hear her speak. This is not uncommon practice for people who have held elected office and/or government position. I don't see them being hounded day in and day out for their transcripts.

She has voluntarily released years worth of complete tax returns and her medical reports. The tax returns of the Clinton Foundation have been released. All of this has been scrutinized and I am not aware that any wrongdoing has been found.

She is under no obligation to release any more information, but some of you keep coming back to this like a dog worrying an old bone. It's time to move on.

[madokie]

3. I'd like to know what she's saying to the people

who are giving her huge amounts of money. If she wasn't running for President I'd care less but she is and I do. I do want to know what the hell she's been saying to these people that makes her worth so much to them. Look if it was easy we'd have losers running for office. Oh, wait, we do have that in a lot of cases.

[Arkansas Granny]

5. Well, let's see.

She's a former First Lady, former US Senator and former Secretary of State. I suppose a lot of people would be willing to pay to hear speak.

[madokie]

9. To the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Believe that all you want but don't expect me to believe it too

I'm an Okie Grand father BTW and I want better for my grand child than what Hill has to offer.

more of the same is not cutting it

[IdaBriggs]

4. She was a private citizen planning to run for President.

People want to know if she made promises to the rich and powerful that are different than the things she says to the not-rich. Also, if she made disparaging comments about Obama.

Basically people want to KNOW if she is a lying, back biter instead of just suspecting it.

[GreatGazoo]

14. In my experience companies don't pay money for others to tell them things they don't want to hear.

Hillary asserts that the $15 million in funding she received from Wall St clients for her campaign will have no bearing on her leadership in how Dodd-Frank and future legislation is applied. I find that assertion highly doubtful.

Like the Iraq war, the banking collapse of 2008 was one of the most costly mistakes of the last 30 years. We cannot afford to let the banking industry write the legislation that will allegedly prevent the next one. The Clintons continue to be employed by the very banks and financial institutions that demanded a public bailout. The burden of proof is on the Clintons. Let them prove that they can be objective in policing their employers going forward.

[Enthusiast]

15. The overwhelming need is because many of us harbor doubts about Hillary's true loyalties.

Is she more loyal to Wall Street than she is to the American people? We want to know.

Tax returns and her medical reports do not answer these questions.

The 2008 economic collapse has made all of us more cautious that we were in the past. Many of us believe deregulation in the 1990s contributed to the problems. Millions of American citizens lost their homes, job, their savings or all three. Hillary's secrecy has done nothing to alleviate these fears.

[pnwmom]

6. He hasn't released a single tax return yet, and she's released 30 years worth over the years,

including 8 last summer.

He doesn't have a leg to stand on at this point. How come he's only going to release one from a single year, 2014? I'd like to see the one from 2011, for example, with Jane's big severance package from the college that let her go.

All these old tax returns have to be readily available, but if they lost them or something, all Bernie had to do was call the IRS and ask for copies -- which he could have done months ago.

This seems very strange. I don't think he wants his followers to learn what some analysts have figured out -- that he's probably worth a couple million or more. He owns two or three real estate properties, including one in D.C. where the median price is quite high. And he's got a very substantial retirement package.

I bet he never releases them unless he's the nominee. Why make them public if he doesn't have to?

[jfern]

7. He already released 2014 taxes, and he has financial disclosures from the last 26 years

[pnwmom]

8. No, he only released the 2 page 1040 summary,, not a complete return. That's why,

during the debate, he said that 'tomorrow' he'd release the full 2014. It hasn't been released yet.

The Senate financial disclosure figures are reported only in ranges, and do not include all the information you'd see in a full tax return. They don't substitute for tax returns -- but when read in conjunction with tax returns give a good overall picture of someone's assets.

[jfern]

11. Tax returns don't give you any idea of assets

And none of the Republicans released more than a 1040.

[pnwmom]

12. Then that's fine. When the Rethugs release their returns, and their speech transcripts,

then Bernie can release his tax returns and Hillary can release her speech transcripts.

But not till then.

[BernieforPres2016]

10. Bernie missed a chance to embarrass her further

When she ducked the transcript question again and pivoted to Bernie's tax returns, Bernie could have said I will make a deal with you here tonight on national television. I will release my tax returns for the last 8 years in the next few days, and then you will release the transcripts of your speeches to Wall Street within 48 hours after that. Is that a deal? That would have set off another round of Hillary talking in circles, because we all know those transcripts will never be made public unless somebody else leaks them.

[pnwmom]

13. He didn't do it, and don't you wonder what he's hiding? Maybe Jane's severance package

from when Burlington college let her go in 2011.

[GreatGazoo]

16. Yes I hope Bernie will vary his language a little on this issue and include concepts

like Conflict of Interest.

Conflict of interest should have been prevented BEFORE the banks were allowed to bet against their own clients, to sell bad mortgages while betting that those mortgages would become worthless.

We are headed for a new conflict of interest of equal proportion if the Clintons are in charge of the candy store.

Conflict of Interest

A term used to describe the situation in which a public official or fiduciary who, contrary to the obligation and absolute duty to act for the benefit of the public or a designated individual, exploits the relationship for personal benefit, typically pecuniary.

In certain relationships, individuals or the general public place their trust and confidence in someone to act in their best interests. When an individual has the responsibility to represent another person—whether as administrator, attorney, executor, government official, or trustee—a clash between professional obligations and personal interests arises if the individual tries to perform that duty while at the same time trying to achieve personal gain. The appearance of a conflict of interest is present if there is a potential for the personal interests of an individual to clash with fiduciary duties, such as when a client has his or her attorney commence an action against a company in which the attorney is the majority stockholder.

Incompatibility of professional duties and personal interests has led Congress and many state legislatures to enact statutes defining conduct that constitutes a conflict of interest and specifying the sanctions for violations. A member of a profession who has been involved in a conflict of interest might be subject to disciplinary proceedings before the body that granted permission to practice that profession.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/conflict+of+interest