Agree with Van Jones - Bernie took brave position on Palestine / Israel

[kcjohn1]

In NY Primary he did not pander to AIPAC / Israel. You never see politician take this sort of humane position on any issue related to Israel as there is only one acceptable position to Israel in politics (who can kiss their ass the most).

I also think this is wise political decision. Most young voters, including Jewish voters, are very progressive on this issue. They can see the humanity on both sides and realize that this one sided approach is not going to solve anything (hasn't for 40+ years). Sure it hurts him with older jews and generally older voters (but they weren't going to vote for him anyway). The other unspoken fact is this will help him with AA + Latinos. These communities can empathize more with injustice and are IMO more prone to sympathize with the downtrodden and those treated horrible around the world than their white counterparts.

[yourpaljoey]

1. truth

[beam me up scottie]

2. He criticized Israel in the past too, and believes in a two state solution.

Some people keep posting an old video of Bernie telling an anti-Semitic bigot to shut up at a town hall as if it proves he's anti-Palestinian.

I guess that's easier than actually looking up his record.

[Behind the Aegis]

16. The whole affair has been disgusting.

I see anti-Israel posters taking this as an opportunity to bash Israel, trying to make their "positions" on Israel Sanders'; they aren't. I see pro-Israel posters making this out to be that Sanders is a hater of Israel; not true.

[Major Hogwash]

18. So did John Kerry in 2004, and Barack Obama in 2008.

We have come a long way from supporting every little thing that Israel decides to do.

[Martin Eden]

29. I don't believe the 2 state solution is possible without cataclysimic change

The West Bank is absolutely riddled with Israeli settlements and the roads connecting them.

There can be no sovereign Palestine while Israel has authority over settlements and roads in the WB.

Either the settlements (many of them multigenerational communities) have to be abandoned, or the Israelis living there will have to accept living under Palestinian authority in a Palestinian state.

Under what circumstances are either of those developments likely to happen?

I'm not advocating against a two state solution.

I'm just pointing out the reality on the ground that has been created, on purpose, by Israelis whose long term goal is a Greater Israel encompassing all of the Promised Land.

[Armstead]

3. Howard Fineman said it was Historic on CNN

He had to put a negative spin by saying that it was because Bernie knows he can't win.

But he said it was very brave and historic to say that a balanced policy is needed.

[BernieforPres2016]

4. And Bernie hammered her on her APAIC speech that barely mentioned the Palestinians

She would never respond to it or acknowledge it.

[kcjohn1]

5. Would have love it if he said her position and GOP/Trump were exactly the same n/t

[ericson00]

6. there's nothing brave about being fringe on the one rare uniting issue for Americans:

If Israel were a Presidential nominee, ratios of 2:1 and higher would win 50 states.

[beam me up scottie]

8. That makes absolutely no sense at all. It's easy to side with the majority.

It's courageous to take a stand you know will be unpopular.

[mhatrw]

10. LOL. So being pro-Israel, but respecting the human rights of Palestinians is "fringe"? nt

[ThePhilosopher04]

12. Yeah, it's real fucking brave to go along with the crowd. Real god damn fucking brave.

[loyalsister]

13. That's a creepy chart

The basic question is: "which people matter most?" The responses reveal the hate in US culture that allows Donald Trump to gain popularity, and brings our country shame.

[ericson00]

23. its a beautiful chart. This country elected a black man twice

so yea, sure we have race problems, but overall, we're pretty good.

OH, btw, America is one of the least anti-Semitic countries on the planet.

[loyalsister]

25. And your chart on Islamaphobia?

Where are the numbers for that one? Actually they are embedded in the one posted. The numbers in your chart indicate that USAers see citizens of Israel as more worthy than their Palestinian counterparts. Those numbers are reflective of the fact that Trump has won primaries.
Segregation and slavery were both popular enough that they were not challenged. Popularity thinking and seeing people as less valuable does not validate it.
As far as doing pretty good because we elected a black president. Really? Bigotry has been given greater comfort since 2009. Enough that I have heard from trailblazers that it has felt like a return to the bad old days.

[TheBlackAdder]

22. Notice the low "No Religion," because Christians need Israel to usher in the End-Times

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The Israeli Jews are needed to convert to Christianity for Judgement Day to commence.


But, many Jews, especially American Jews, are held in contempt as they are blamed for Christ's death.


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[jillan]

7. And that is why people trust Bernie. He doesn't pander. He said that in NY and may lose votes becuz

of it.

[Barack_America]

9. This is truth.

[Cheese Sandwich]

11. straight shooter all the way

link

[loyalsister]

14. Having a Jewish pesident who does not enable Israel

and their aggesssion that maquerades as defense could be such a positive international game changer. After all the damage we have done, it's time we show some leadership that values the lives of all middle easterners.

[JI7]

15. can't Jewish people empathize with injustice also ? the position of Sanders and Clinton is the same

when it comes to Israel.

and her lead among jewish voters is very much for the same reason she leads among black and latino voters.

Anthony Weiner who was very much openly pro israel , much more than Clinton was very popular among the black community.

[Major Hogwash]

17. One thing that stands out about Bernie is that he is genuine.

He has to hang around politicians and sleazy con artists all day long while dealing with the Republicans in the Senate in his duties as a Senator, but he doesn't pander to special interests.

And that is why he should be our next President.

[Uncle Joe]

19. I agree with your overall analysis.

Thanks for the thread, kcjohn1.

[2banon]

20. Kickin' & a Recken'

[ebayfool]

21. Agreed! TYT Cenk was on this too ...

Cenk Uygur Verified account
?@cenkuygur

I love America! We have most successful Jewish candidate in history defending the humanity of Palestinians. #DemDebate #TYTLive

[NorthCarolina]

24. He's everywhere I want to be on the issues...this particular one included. nt

[EndElectoral]

26. Actually a balanced two state position was the position of all Presidents before GW. Sad to see HRC

embracing the GW Bush philosophy in the region.

Even the majority of Israeli people embrace a two state solution.

[bbgrunt]

28. In their hearts, even Clinton supporters know he is right.