2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAt a bar with four friends, all Bernie supporters.
None of them called me names or accused me of being a Republican.
All say that they will vote for Hillary in the GE if Bernie loses.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)A friend of mine who is a Clinton supporter invited me out to dinner the other night, and picked up the tab. We didn't discuss politics at all.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Though I suspect that most people would respond in a more sensible way IRL. The internet isn't representative of reality in any way, shape or form. I have similar experiences at the local bar, the support by local Republican trolls there for Trump is shallow and devoid of any enthusiasm.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)to step back from the bar that they'd had enough? You didn't let them drive home did you?
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)"All say that they will vote for Hillary in the GE if Bernie loses"
That had me rollin', thx for the laugh
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Other places online as well, but DU is the nexus of that activity.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I know I will vote for whomever is the Democratic nominee in the GE.
She is making it harder and harder to do however, and I can see myself just working on local elections and not bother with the Presidential one.
I am a little bit tired however on the calls for him to just suspend his campaign and urge his followers to vote for Clinton.
Frankly, her campaign has a lot of nerve to even expect them to support her come the general election.
Sure, she won the early states. That was during the time people are still trying to figure out who are running.
From then on, the campaign was not in regards to issues any more. It was just, oh we won already, just give it up.
Heck, at the beginning, she was campaigning trying to promote herself as a Progressive, and she would basically parrot the Sanders position on debates and just try to add just a little bit more to sound as if she's tougher. Much of which seems to be extemporaneous and made up at the stage. In one debate, she even directly changed her position a little less than an hour after one of her staff was having an interview.
After which, she stopped pretending and even said something like "There will never be Universal Health Care in America". Of course with an attitude like that, there never will be.
See, in many ways to me she is great for the Senate. She can deal and work with others and set things up. However, she is not a leader. A leader gets ahead of a position and takes a stand. She is the definition of a politician... Politicians tend to be cowards and will not join a position until it is popular. Clinton changes to the tune of what is popular, and what would sound great at the moment. This, does not make her unqualified, as everyone currently running is qualified except for Ted Cruz, that guy is Canadian.
In any case, I consider both free to run till the end, and they should. To me, it is a shame that the primaries have devolved to "just get over it and get behind us already" as she really has to earn their votes. It is unfortunate, especially as the current Clinton is heading back towards the more conservative, corporate policy, then attacks Sanders trying to make him look unqualified rather than actually dealing with the actual platforms.
Even I, who should be a safe bet in voting for her, it makes it harder to get to the polls for this. Thankfully, I have the local races, and there are exceptional Democrats running for the Senate and Congress.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)you get what you give here on DU.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Poor li'l ol' me??
That reminds me of one candidate that uses the same line when deflecting from past mistakes
fried eggs
(910 posts)?? Who talks like that?
Autumn
(45,107 posts)and family are wonderful too.
mythology
(9,527 posts)I know people who support all 5 of the major party candidates and people who support third party candidates. I would find only knowing people who think in lockstep with me very boring and certainly not something to be proud of.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)Not this time, not one person I know supports her.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:04 AM - Edit history (1)
Lol. But it is kind of true all of the people over about 50-55 support Hillary and all of the younger ones support Bernie. It's cute. Since I like both candidates, I can have good conversations with my kids and my adult friends. I will be getting reports from my daughter at the rally tomorrow in Washington Square - I can't wait.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)I'm in my 60s. In my own little corner of the world there are no democrats of any age range supporting Hillary.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Have you ever considered that your shit-stirring may be contributing to a lot of the name-calling?
See you on 3/2!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)be supporting Hillary if she is the nominee.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and nothing at ALL like the ones I encounter here.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Democrats vote for Democratic nominees. People who don't aren't Democrats, pretty much.
I'm a Democrat.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Who recognize that when the chips are down, you don't Nader.