2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"The One Piece of Writing Every Hillary Supporter Should Read"
This is one of the most well-written, well-reasoned articulations of the progressive case against Hillary I have seen to date. It is long -- the four paragraphs excerpted below represent less than 1/8th of the article's length -- but well worth the read.
by Memo Salazar
You keep hearing the same refrain from several of your friends: Bernie Sanders is Americas savior. The Facebook posts are everywhere, the tweets, the memes. Youve heard his impassioned speeches, and, yes, they are definitely fiery and exciting. The young liberal inside you applauds when you hear him speak out for justice, and if you were twenty years old right now, perhaps youd even be convinced. But youre not twenty years old anymore, and youve seen enough in this world to know that the idealism of youth falls short when dealing with the messy reality of human beings- especially in the world of American Politics.
And so, even though Hillary isnt as exciting as Bernie, you begin to realize her message is much more sober: slow change for the better, much in the manner of Barack Obama. It may not be as flashy, but its definitely more certain, and in 4 or 8 years, moving forward a little will be better than moving nowhere fast. As the weeks go by and the Bernie supporters get louder, your faith in Hillarys no-nonsense speeches grows stronger; your tolerance for drinking that Bernie kool-aid gets weaker. A revolution? Really? Besides, what could be more revolutionary than finally having a woman in the White House? Isnt that, in itself, about as revolutionary as it gets?
If you identify with some, or all, of this point of view, youre not alone. In an election that is bringing out some very ugly sides of humanity, Hillary Clinton is probably our best bet for sanity right now. This is no time for experimenting with Democracy; if ever we need to keep things on an even keel, its now.
All of the above would be true, except for the fact that it is very, very, very much untrue. But, wait- before you turn away from these words in frustration, thinking the last thing you need to read is another anti-Hillary rant, allow yourself to play devils advocate for just a couple of minutes longer. After all, if Hillary is the wiser choice, then nothing you can read below will change that irrevocable fact. But if the facts reflect a much different truth- if, in fact, they completely contradict the above argument- dont you owe it to yourself to at least consider them? If only to better understand your opposition? Is the election simply about picking a team and rooting for them loudly until the season ends, or is actually about finding the best method to improve your country? If its the latter, read on. These are just words on paper, after all- you can choose to disagree with them and never have to worry about anyones opinion of you, nor damage a friendship because of political differences. Theyre just words.
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antigop
(12,778 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)is no mere coincidence- its a fact too gigantic to ignore or argue away."
That's true. And his thoughts about her blowing off blacks, also.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)Obama was our savior, and it didn't matter about his Wall Street bucks. It only matters when it's Hillary. Hypocrisy at its worst.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . and were none too pleased when he accepted Wall Street cash. And he turned out to be a center-right corporatist, not a progressive.
stellanoir
(14,881 posts)The primaries in '08 were prior to the financial meltdown which alerted the masses to the fact that Wall Street doesn't really mind screwing over the peasants to make a killing.
More than most thought the giants of investment must have some modicum of integrity.
Now we all know they do not.
Big difference.
See "the Big Short" for reference.