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Related: About this forumFour Myths That Are Keeping Hillary Clinton Afloat In The Democratic Race
Four Myths Keeping Clinton Afloat
by John Atcheson
April 12, 2016
Myth # 1 Hillary is more likely to beat Republicans in the general election
For months now, polls show that Sanders has done better against Republican opponents than Hillary. In fact, he wins against opponents she loses to. In the latest polling, for example, she beats Trump by only 9 points, ties Cruz, and loses to Kasich. Meanwhile, Sanders beats Trump by 20 points, Cruz by 12 and Kasich by 11. And Republicans are plotting on ways to select a more electable candidate if the convention is deadlocked, so running Hillary is risky for Democrats.
Bottom line: not only does Hillary do worse against Republicans than Sanders, she has unique vulnerabilities that make her a risky candidate for Democrats to run. Indeed, running Hillary may be the only way the Democrats could lose the Whitehouse.
Myth #2 Hillary knows how to get things done
This is one of her favorite lines and it gets picked up by her many surrogates in the press. The fact is, it doesnt bear scrutiny. For example, she only sponsored 3 Bills that became law during her 8 year tenure. One established an historic site in New York, another renamed a Post Office, and the third named a portion of a highway in New York after Timothy J. Russert.
Myth #3 Sanders isnt a real Democrat and he isnt doing anything to help the Partys downballot candidates
Where you stand on this depends upon how you define a Democrat. If its merely a label that can be worn by anyone regardless of their positions, then Sanders is guilty as charged. And certainly Hillary has offered financial and other help to Democrats that Sanders has not.
But if you believe that being a Democrat is about values, not labels, then Sanders is doing a tremendous amount to help the Democratic Party at all levels of government.
The fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party left the people behind decades ago, when they embraced the pay-to-play political model that now dominates our elections and our governance.
Finally, Sanders is attracting new voters to the Party, and these voters will ultimately help elect more progressives at every level of government something Democrats desperately need if they are to avoid the disastrous low turnout that crippled the Party in 2014, when a mere 36.4 per cent of eligible voters showed up -- the lowest voter turnout in 72 years and Republicans won big at all levels of government.
Bottom line: Sanders has made it safe to be a real Democrat again and hes attracting much needed new voters, and is likely to have the coattails to help Democrats in Congressional and state races. Hillary is busy propping up the status quo, which will limit turnout.
Myth #4 Her experience gives her an edge
Hillary is pretty much batting zero on all counts. Her foreign policy is basically the same as the neocons. She voted for the Iraq war, then compounded the error by supporting regime change in Libya and Syria. Her economic policies are soft on Wall Street and shes refused to back the $15 minimum wage. Finally, all this experience seems not to have given her a consistent view of policy. Shes flip-flopped on energy policy, trade agreements, crime issues, tax policy, regulation of the big banks on and on it goes.
Bottom line: Ms. Clinton has loads of experience but shes demonstrated poor judgment.
Experience without judgment merely allows her the opportunity to make the same mistakes over and over again. Experience without independence assures that she will. And taking money from Wall Street, fossil fuel interests, the pharmaceutical industry and other fat-cats assures that she has no independence.
For months now, polls show that Sanders has done better against Republican opponents than Hillary. In fact, he wins against opponents she loses to. In the latest polling, for example, she beats Trump by only 9 points, ties Cruz, and loses to Kasich. Meanwhile, Sanders beats Trump by 20 points, Cruz by 12 and Kasich by 11. And Republicans are plotting on ways to select a more electable candidate if the convention is deadlocked, so running Hillary is risky for Democrats.
Bottom line: not only does Hillary do worse against Republicans than Sanders, she has unique vulnerabilities that make her a risky candidate for Democrats to run. Indeed, running Hillary may be the only way the Democrats could lose the Whitehouse.
Myth #2 Hillary knows how to get things done
This is one of her favorite lines and it gets picked up by her many surrogates in the press. The fact is, it doesnt bear scrutiny. For example, she only sponsored 3 Bills that became law during her 8 year tenure. One established an historic site in New York, another renamed a Post Office, and the third named a portion of a highway in New York after Timothy J. Russert.
Myth #3 Sanders isnt a real Democrat and he isnt doing anything to help the Partys downballot candidates
Where you stand on this depends upon how you define a Democrat. If its merely a label that can be worn by anyone regardless of their positions, then Sanders is guilty as charged. And certainly Hillary has offered financial and other help to Democrats that Sanders has not.
But if you believe that being a Democrat is about values, not labels, then Sanders is doing a tremendous amount to help the Democratic Party at all levels of government.
The fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party left the people behind decades ago, when they embraced the pay-to-play political model that now dominates our elections and our governance.
Finally, Sanders is attracting new voters to the Party, and these voters will ultimately help elect more progressives at every level of government something Democrats desperately need if they are to avoid the disastrous low turnout that crippled the Party in 2014, when a mere 36.4 per cent of eligible voters showed up -- the lowest voter turnout in 72 years and Republicans won big at all levels of government.
Bottom line: Sanders has made it safe to be a real Democrat again and hes attracting much needed new voters, and is likely to have the coattails to help Democrats in Congressional and state races. Hillary is busy propping up the status quo, which will limit turnout.
Myth #4 Her experience gives her an edge
Hillary is pretty much batting zero on all counts. Her foreign policy is basically the same as the neocons. She voted for the Iraq war, then compounded the error by supporting regime change in Libya and Syria. Her economic policies are soft on Wall Street and shes refused to back the $15 minimum wage. Finally, all this experience seems not to have given her a consistent view of policy. Shes flip-flopped on energy policy, trade agreements, crime issues, tax policy, regulation of the big banks on and on it goes.
Bottom line: Ms. Clinton has loads of experience but shes demonstrated poor judgment.
Experience without judgment merely allows her the opportunity to make the same mistakes over and over again. Experience without independence assures that she will. And taking money from Wall Street, fossil fuel interests, the pharmaceutical industry and other fat-cats assures that she has no independence.
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Four Myths That Are Keeping Hillary Clinton Afloat In The Democratic Race (Original Post)
imagine2015
Apr 2016
OP
"running Hillary may be the only way the Democrats could lose the Whitehouse." How true that is.
imagine2015
Apr 2016
#2
This is the logic that escapes me: Sanders is our only path to the White House, but...
Buzz Clik
Apr 2016
#13
And Hillary has a lot of experience in representing her Wall Street benefactors!
imagine2015
Apr 2016
#6
Unending wars abroad .... year, after year, after year with trillions wasted and many lives lost.
imagine2015
Apr 2016
#8
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)1. This one is very popular with the Sanders set!
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)4. Must be the evening shift clocking in
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)7. That made me LOL. Thanks.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)10. Unlike you guys who are on it 24/7...
Thanks for your service!
Sivart
(325 posts)12. What is that avatar you and others are using?
Is that Bernie's face on the virgin Mary?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)14. funny thing about that,
true things are pretty popular.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)2. "running Hillary may be the only way the Democrats could lose the Whitehouse." How true that is.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)13. This is the logic that escapes me: Sanders is our only path to the White House, but...
... he cannot win the Democratic nomination.
How does that even begin to make sense?
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)3. "Experience" means many things
Bonnie and Clyde had a lot of banking experience. Bernie Madoff had a lot of investing experience.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)6. And Hillary has a lot of experience in representing her Wall Street benefactors!
She's always done well by them.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)5. her foreign policy
Is pretty much Obama's and that's been working pretty well at keeping America safe.
When you have to keep denying your a pacifist, thats problematic.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)8. Unending wars abroad .... year, after year, after year with trillions wasted and many lives lost.
Spending trillions for nation building abroad while we can't find the money rebuild ours at home.
What a progressive legacy that is.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)9. "Thanks for keepin' up my legacy, Honey"
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jillan
(39,451 posts)11. Except for Libya! "Worst mistake of my Presidency" And why did he go into Libya? His SoS!
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)15. BirdieBro forgot Myth #5 - Hillary has 2.4 million more votes