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Beacool

(30,250 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:56 PM Apr 2016

Bernie is wrong about super-delegates: Why his tortured Dem Primary arguments try to have it both wa

By Bob Ceska
April 12, 2016

The Sanders camp has made lots of noise about anti-democratic action in the primary. But there are some problems

When the 2016 primary season began, the last topic I thought we’d ever cover in depth here was the Wyoming caucuses. There are, like, four people in the entire state, and three of them are Cheneys. Nevertheless, here we are, and following the Democratic caucus there, several ongoing myths have boiled to the surface again, demanding a proper busting. Unfortunately, most of the myths are being actively marketed by supporters of Bernie Sanders, as well as a prominent cable news conservative.

On the one hand, I get what’s happening. Bernie supporters are seeing their candidate’s window for victory rapidly closing, so they’re pulling out all the stops to defy the pundits and to keep their revolution afloat. On the other hand, it’s difficult to see the long-term upside in virally spreading myths about the voting process on the Democratic side — especially knowing how many legitimate issues there are with casting ballots in America, many of which are currently on display in Maricopa County, Arizona, along with other red states where the GOP has eroded the integrity of the process to third-world banana republic status.

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At this stage of the game, Hillary Clinton has a relatively insurmountable lead on pledged delegates. 1,287 to Bernie’s 1,037. Add the superdelegates so far and Hillary’s lead broadens to 1,756, while Bernie’s 31 superdelegates bring him to 1,068. But in the wake of Wyoming, the notion of a rigged election favoring Hillary has resurfaced, and it’s being egged on by MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough who said, Monday morning:

“Bernie Sanders won Wyoming by 12 percent, but he might not even pick up a single delegate. Hillary Clinton was awarded 11 delegates, Bernie Sanders only seven,” Scarborough said. “Why does the Democratic Party even have voting booths? This system is so rigged.”

First of all, it was Scarborough’s own network that “awarded” Hillary’s 11 delegates by counting the four superdelegates who’ve expressed their support for the frontrunner already. Take away the four superdelegates and Hillary came away with seven delegates. Bernie, likewise, won seven delegates, making the outcome an even split, in spite of the 12 percent popular vote margin in favor of Bernie. Scarborough, being a former member of Congress and a professional political commentator, should also know by now that delegates aren’t awarded by straight-up popular votes.

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/12/bernie_is_wrong_about_super_delegates_why_his_tortured_dem_primary_arguments_try_to_have_it_both_ways/

It's never a good idea to base strategy on what Republicans opine.



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Bernie is wrong about super-delegates: Why his tortured Dem Primary arguments try to have it both wa (Original Post) Beacool Apr 2016 OP
The super delegate governor in washington state doesn't need to look to missispsi Csainvestor Apr 2016 #1
So, would lying about being under sniper fire help? revbones Apr 2016 #2
What the heck does your response have to do with the issue at hand? Beacool Apr 2016 #3
"Bernie Sanders is a superdelegate" hack89 Apr 2016 #4
Poor Bernie. I almost feel sorry for him and his supporters. Oh well. Yuuuuge kick. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #5
I wouldn't go that far. Beacool Apr 2016 #6

Csainvestor

(388 posts)
1. The super delegate governor in washington state doesn't need to look to missispsi
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

the voters in missispsi voted for Hillary, the voters in WA voted for Hillary.

The super delegate governor of WA needs to follow the will of his voter base, not follow the will of the voters in mississippi.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
2. So, would lying about being under sniper fire help?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

It apparently works for Hillary followers? Maybe he could sway a few over that way. Whatcha think?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
3. What the heck does your response have to do with the issue at hand?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

Which is listening to bloviating Republican pundits and basing strategy on the divisive nonsense that they spew?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
6. I wouldn't go that far.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

Although, going in on and on about super delegates is silly when his opponent is so far ahead in pledged delegates. The election is not rigged, it's just that more people have been voting for Hillary than have voted for Sanders. Some can't seem to accept that fact.

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