2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumElected super delegates should follow the will of the state
For example, the sitting governor and senators in WA state have pledged their super delegate votes to Hillary even though the people overwhelmingly choose to back Bernie.
The elected WA super delegates are defying the will of the voters in their own state. Why should a WA super delegate pick Hillary over Bernie, and use the vote in mississippi as an excuse for supporting Hillary over Bernie?
Now there are also super delegates that are not in office, people like lobbyist Howard Dean, and a bunch of other corporate lobbyists that have super delegate votes. I would argue unelected super delegates might have a reason to vote independently.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Csainvestor
(388 posts)They never should have all supported Hillary, and stubbornly refused to change even after she lost their homestates.
superdelegates should have vigorously defied the will of the voters in their home states.
it's going to get ugly with the super delegates, especially in states like WA.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You might look up the definition of "object permanence." That will help define your problem.
Then, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)If you don't like it, get active in your state and work to change it.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)They don't represent the will of the people.
Csainvestor
(388 posts)give a damn how the people voted in mississippi or alabama? the voters in their home states voted overwhelmingly to support Bernie. They should follow the will of the state that they represent.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Kate Brown (Oregon governor and Hillary superelegate) has endorsed Hillary and stated that regardless of the primary outcome, that won't change.
Yes, I'll be doing my damnedest to see she loses her bid to keep the office she inherited.
Csainvestor
(388 posts)WA state is about to rebell against the elected super delegates that still back Hillary.
Watch what happens in WA state in the next few weeks.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I suspect there will be a lot of similar work to do down here in Oregon.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)And just to be fair, there are super delegates for Sanders in states that Clinton won. Alan Grayson has pledged to support Sanders even though Florida voted for Clinton by well of 60% of the vote.
Csainvestor
(388 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:51 PM - Edit history (1)
In the states that Bernie won, the super delegates should be backing him, and the states that hillary won should do the same.
But an elected official in colorado should not look at the popular vote in South Carolina to see who they should support. They should look to how the voters in their own home state decided to vote.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Which Im in favor of.
But the super deligates were designed to give certain members and independent vote. So they are free to vote however they want.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)If the party wants the elites to be the deciders, just gather them in a room, feed them a few cocktails and vote for the nominee. Don't inconvenience people who stand in line for hours to vote in a primary if those votes don't really matter.
JesterCS
(1,827 posts)Just a general election, no supers, no pre-endorsements. Will of the People should be the law
If Sanders wins 80%, he should get 80% of delegates ex: ALASKA
brooklynite
(94,592 posts)I mean, just because they go around voting Democratic each election, who do they think they are?
brooklynite
(94,592 posts)Maybe you folks should get together and come up with a common message?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)When they're up for reelection.