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bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:51 AM Apr 2016

She figures no one will research, and is counting on it... so she lies and lies and lies!


Before HRC starting touting "per capita" (see below) she was stating the below without that term in the last few months. Now her camp decided they better put that word in the statement. People generally who are listening to her will not question the percentage or the population of Vermont. Her camp realizes this. She is deceptive and a liar. Many listening to this misleading crap will believe it and that's what they are counting on. Those who do not research what she says and just believe her are those without the time or interest to research the truth. I am so sick of her dishonest behavior! She is always like this. What she says, she twists, lies and distorts. How can any one support such a dishonest person.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/11/clinton-sanders-gun-control-agenda

"Clinton has been touting this lie for months now and just yesterday again "Clinton’s claim that Vermont sends the most guns used in crime per capita to New York may be technically true due to the state’s proximity and small population, but it is also somewhat misleading. According to the ATF, in 2014, 55 traced guns found in New York were traceable to Vermont, less than 1% of the roughly 7,686 that were recovered, (though only 4,585 of those guns were traceable to a state). Most illegal guns in New York come from the south."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/12/hillary-clintons-claim-that-the-highest-per-capita-number-of-crime-guns-in-new-york-come-from-vermont/

"In 2013 and 2014, the states where the most number of out-of-state crime
guns originated were Virginia, Pennsylvania, Florida and Georgia. The state
with the most number of guns per 100,000 people was, indeed, Vermont.
But 1 percent of crime guns whose sources were identified in 2014 originated from Vermont: 55 of 4,585.
Crime guns in New York from Vermont is a recent trend. From 2006 to 2012, Vermont was not listed as a top 15 state for crime guns in New York from Vermont, ATF data show."
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She figures no one will research, and is counting on it... so she lies and lies and lies! (Original Post) bkkyosemite Apr 2016 OP
The auto bailot lie didn't work, and her campaign is tumbling, sinking. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
What auto bailout lie? Bernie voted against the one bill that gave the industry money! Period! nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #20
How can it be a "lie" if (as you acknowledge) it's "technically true"? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #2
She was lying and then just yesterday added the word per capita...come on what other bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #6
REad the stats and her lie was very misleading as to actual proportion Armstead Apr 2016 #17
Sort of like a petition which was posted which was a lie... Agschmid Apr 2016 #3
I did not post it as if I knew it was a lie. I explained that re: the other post OP. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #7
I'm not a stalker at all. Agschmid Apr 2016 #12
Stop following me around here. I don't want to talk to you any longer and I won't put you bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #13
So no updates to that OP? Agschmid Apr 2016 #21
lie after lie amborin Apr 2016 #4
Just say it. Her go-to move is to lie. revbones Apr 2016 #5
It's the look on her face and her body language that is so concerning while she lies. It tells bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #8
The Shamless Untruther strikes again! EndElectoral Apr 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #14
I do not blame Her FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #10
Please contact Sen Leahy, Congressman Peter Welch & Gov Shumlin and ask the if they are ok jillan Apr 2016 #11
I can't stand her SheenaR Apr 2016 #15
After reading your post here's something to ponder. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #18
I want to be careful in my comparisons SheenaR Apr 2016 #19
Some people are math challenged felix_numinous Apr 2016 #16
and the biggest US sales of weapons to the Middle East... mooseprime Apr 2016 #22
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
20. What auto bailout lie? Bernie voted against the one bill that gave the industry money! Period! nt
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
6. She was lying and then just yesterday added the word per capita...come on what other
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

excuse are you gonna make. She is deceptive! And a liar!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
17. REad the stats and her lie was very misleading as to actual proportion
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

There is a total lack of integrity to her carefully customized lies.....She does it repeatedly and if I was a supporter of hers I'd be ashamed and call on her to knock it off.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
3. Sort of like a petition which was posted which was a lie...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

I guess no one figured we would research it.

But we did.

And the lie is still there.

Trust me it's frustrating, I know first hand.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
7. I did not post it as if I knew it was a lie. I explained that re: the other post OP.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

You seem like a stalker. Like Hillary says cut it out.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
13. Stop following me around here. I don't want to talk to you any longer and I won't put you
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

or anyone else on ignore. Please respect my request.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
5. Just say it. Her go-to move is to lie.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

If you tell enough of them, some slip by. That's her motivation. Otherwise, she is just a serial liar.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
8. It's the look on her face and her body language that is so concerning while she lies. It tells
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

me that this is something she is very comfortable doing.

Response to EndElectoral (Reply #9)

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
10. I do not blame Her
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

Her no longer has even a casual acquaintance with the truth. Truth is a long forgotten concept. It is the hallmark of Clintonism.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. Please contact Sen Leahy, Congressman Peter Welch & Gov Shumlin and ask the if they are ok
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

with Hillary lying about their state?

They need to support the people of Vermont first.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
15. I can't stand her
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

But it's a genius move by her over and over

The lies never hurt her. Why would she stop? Why would she release the transcripts? She doesn't have to. A large percentage of Americans still aren't paying attention to what's going on. Think otherwise? Ask some of your co-workers about some of the issues in the election. It's startling.

Why would she ever change that. The goal is to win

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
18. After reading your post here's something to ponder.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
16. Some people are math challenged
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

because they get their information from questionable sources. Statistics can be easily worded to serve just about any viewpoint, which is why cross checking from many sources is best.

mooseprime

(474 posts)
22. and the biggest US sales of weapons to the Middle East...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:39 PM
Apr 2016

...come from Hillary Clinton's State Department! 55 guns from Vermont to New York; $27 BILLION in arms sales to the Saudis alone, greenlighted by Clinton in exchange for "donations" to the family foundation. And Qatar, and on and on. In some cases several hundred percent over any amount that had been permitted in the past. Shameful.

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