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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:40 AM Apr 2016

MSNBC reporter embarrasses herself live on air at Rochester rally

Casey Hunt, their "embed" reporter, who is kind of okay i guess, just jumped the shark.

She was covering the line outside a Bernie rally in Rochester. In advancing the meme that Sanders does not appeal to real voters, she wanted to illustrate it.

"There's a long line out here..... But here's the problem Sanders faces in the election."

Pointing to a group of people in the line she said: "Are you registered to vote?"....."Yessssss" they replied....... "But are you registered as Democrats?".........."Absolutely!"................Then she went to another section. "How about you?"..."Yes we've all registered as Democrats!"

Then she looked around, a little flustered..."Anyone, anyone here not registered?"

While it is a problem for Sanders, it was an illustration of how they keep trying to undermine his candidacy. The uipdated version of "sanders might win 10 percent of the vote if he's lucky."

Sometimes those handy conventional wisdom messages and stereotypes the media loves to flog us with don't quite work out as planned.

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MSNBC reporter embarrasses herself live on air at Rochester rally (Original Post) Armstead Apr 2016 OP
Ahaha another media lie debunked live on air GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Nothing better than name calling at 9:45 in the morning. Agschmid Apr 2016 #2
Why so serious.... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #7
Cornel really comes up with some names for folks. nt rbrnmw Apr 2016 #27
Did he do it on colored people's time? frylock Apr 2016 #69
Bam! Jennylynn Apr 2016 #76
It isn't name-calling to describe what a reporter did. Punkingal Apr 2016 #32
I say it all the time, to both sides. Agschmid Apr 2016 #34
Never ask a question you don't already know the answer..LOL..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2016 #41
Lol - winner lasttrip Apr 2016 #43
Same to you lasttrip..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2016 #45
Next time she'll know to plant the production asst dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #55
Is describing something that happened name calling? Armstead Apr 2016 #51
Jury said "no" on this one. Agschmid Apr 2016 #63
This silly thing was alerted on? Boy we're getting touchy around here. Armstead Apr 2016 #67
A reporter is supposed to explore and find, not drive a pre-determined narrative. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #98
The obsessive alerting is a tactic to try to defuse the Sanders enthusiasm here. It's sadly rhett o rick Apr 2016 #119
MSNBC Mute Sanders Nobody But Clinton. Same for other msm, but MSNBC is on steroids. Shameful and merrily Apr 2016 #3
Mute Sanders Nobody But Clinton frylock Apr 2016 #70
Can't take credit. I saw that or something like it on DU recently. Wish I could remember merrily Apr 2016 #71
It's brilliant! frylock Apr 2016 #73
I also like "Must Shill Nonstop 'Bout Clinton" k&r, nt. appal_jack Apr 2016 #94
I think she was trying to illustrate a point that not everyone at his rallies are eligible to vote hrmjustin Apr 2016 #4
And failing in a most spectacular way Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #9
True ... But she got duped! ... Tricked I tell you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #59
They will likely find a group of suitable "ineligibles" on a later broadcast to "set the narrative" NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #61
They need Frank Luntz! dchill Apr 2016 #81
I bet not everyone at Hillary's rallies are eligible to vote Bob41213 Apr 2016 #10
Anything to make a buck. nt JEB Apr 2016 #120
As we've seen before... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #13
I wouldn't stand in line for hours on a chilly morning for a rally if not engaged Armstead Apr 2016 #17
That's exactly what she was trying to do Armstead Apr 2016 #15
Trying and doing are not the same thing. She tried to illustrate a point that was not illustrated Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #22
Thanks. bvf Apr 2016 #38
Bwahahahahaha! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #5
A great post to start the day with NWCorona Apr 2016 #6
I remember when CNN was in a room full of women just before the Iowa caucuses. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #8
To be honest, I'm not sure how much is bias and how much is stupidity. Bob41213 Apr 2016 #14
It's "smart" stupidity, which is the worst kind Armstead Apr 2016 #19
For every one person at his rally there are hundreds of Democrats registered to vote in NY... onehandle Apr 2016 #11
"...who will still vote for Sanders," you forgot to add. bvf Apr 2016 #39
WHARGLE BARGLE!!1 frylock Apr 2016 #72
That's correct RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #88
I need a video clip of this hahahaha Joob Apr 2016 #12
hunt jumped the shark a long time ago restorefreedom Apr 2016 #16
A buddy of mine thinks she is so hot. Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #29
i can't really speak to her hotness restorefreedom Apr 2016 #35
the question is drray23 Apr 2016 #18
That is possible -- If so it's a damming indictment of the registration system in NY Armstead Apr 2016 #21
So you think any... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #31
Are voting rights a flexible issue to favor a candidate? Armstead Apr 2016 #36
This is a political party primary. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #44
You are not being intellectually consistent Armstead Apr 2016 #47
Senator Sanders (I-VT)* is not a Democrat. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #49
Keep telling yourself that Armstead Apr 2016 #50
I am begging these guys to close them everywhere nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #75
Demo vs Indys 3hummingbirds Apr 2016 #56
In the primary. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #60
Look up the FEC filings and you shall find... RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #90
So, what are you sayilng? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #97
I capitalize Democratic Party and Democrat. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #99
sorry, my typing is not up to your standards passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #100
That's not typing. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #101
Yes, in my case, it's typing. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #102
You seem to capitalize just fine when it suits you. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #103
I have been noticing a lot of missing caps passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #105
So you'll go back and capitalize and fix typos... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #107
I go back and fix things that are a hang up for me passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #108
So ageism is an OK form of prejudice? Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #123
outrage over someone not using capitol letters is not very helpful Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #113
There is more... the AP manual of style nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #114
I'm not outraged - I know who you are. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #115
I have been a registered Democrat for 15 years, because of the closed party system Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #118
Got it wrong, he's a DIPO, not a DINO dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #83
Hillary best represents our Democratic goals and aspirations. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #85
Wow, clueless dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #86
If your goals and aspirations RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #91
If I'm wrong... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #92
Watch us win! n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #95
She does not! Not even close! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #111
What about people who just turned 18? Amaril Apr 2016 #96
thats not an issue if you are a first time voter. drray23 Apr 2016 #109
You had to be registered by 10/9. redwitch Apr 2016 #57
If you are already a registered as any voter in NY RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #89
Maybe they only THINK they're registered. Qutzupalotl Apr 2016 #20
it seems Casey gets asked a lot of 'Bernie negative' questions when she is live... islandmkl Apr 2016 #23
Northeastern citizens are much smarter, I've lived in NYC and FLA ViseGrip Apr 2016 #24
i have said this many times SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #121
BUSTED! for Bad Journalism Octafish Apr 2016 #25
Good way to put it Armstead Apr 2016 #30
Pretty blatant. But then, I never liked her style of reporting. blm Apr 2016 #84
Do you mean Kasie Hunt? oberliner Apr 2016 #26
Yes Armstead Apr 2016 #28
She embarrasses herself a lot oberliner Apr 2016 #33
I hate to say it but i agree.....I feel like i'm watching a college network Armstead Apr 2016 #37
To be fair, some of the older folks on other networks are also awful oberliner Apr 2016 #40
True....But what's weird is.... Armstead Apr 2016 #42
Agreed oberliner Apr 2016 #46
I loved them too , but they weren't on the bus following a candidate. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #65
"Here's the problem Sanders faces in the election" Nailed It! demwing Apr 2016 #48
Giant plus one! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #112
Looks like she believed the media's own lies about Sanders. Oops..... think Apr 2016 #52
I think the reporters are encouraged to come up with something negative to say... Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #53
You know. This stuff is so damn frustrating. KPN Apr 2016 #54
You are Not Alone In That Thought PCPrincess Apr 2016 #64
A Hillary supporter posted here yesterday that 1/2 at Bernie's Brooklyn rally were not registered. Avalux Apr 2016 #58
They keep trying to throw crap at the fan and hope it sticks. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #62
In my large college dorm in NY...more than half of the people I talk to did not register on time anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #66
I saw that. The talking point of the day really crashed and burned. Vinca Apr 2016 #68
We need back old style media. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #74
We need journalistic standards for sure Armstead Apr 2016 #78
And the local planning board is not covered anymore nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #80
This is encouraging! xynthee Apr 2016 #77
There was a lie posted on DU yesterday about half of Bernie's crowds not being registered CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #79
She's never appealed to me. She strikes me as one who only pushes 'village' blm Apr 2016 #82
Video here Armstead Apr 2016 #87
I wouldn't make too much of that. She does a pretty good job in general. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #93
What was she thinking? That was yesterday's Smear of the Day from Camp Clinton nichomachus Apr 2016 #104
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #106
MSNBC is 100% for Hillary. And MSNBC is 100% missing on my TV set. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #110
+10000! jillan Apr 2016 #117
The corporate media conglomerates do love their frames, it's easier to divide and conquer Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #116
lol. nt ecstatic Apr 2016 #122
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
1. Ahaha another media lie debunked live on air
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

A few Hilli Vanilli fans were peddling that lie around here too...

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
7. Why so serious....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

I think even Hillary supporters can laugh at the Hilli Vanilli name, it is so apropos... Thank you Cornel West for coining it

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
55. Next time she'll know to plant the production asst
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

there to answer the questions in the narrative she's trying to promote

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
67. This silly thing was alerted on? Boy we're getting touchy around here.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

The reporter had two options if she wanted to be a real journalist.

1) She could have prepared by doing a more substantial survey of the people in line beforehand and being honest about the results without preconceptions when reporting on it.

2) She could have done an actual spontaneous live sampling, without leading into it as saying Bernie has a "problem" or claiming tyhat the reactions of a handful of people represented any larger trends (whether favorable or unfavorable to Bernie).

But instead she wanted to "illustrate" the pre-established "problem" being spread by the MSM/Clinton Campaign narrative, and slipped up by a reality on the ground.

A reporter is supposed to explore and find, not drive a pre-determined narrative.



passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
98. A reporter is supposed to explore and find, not drive a pre-determined narrative.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

And this is what is wrong with most journalism today!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
119. The obsessive alerting is a tactic to try to defuse the Sanders enthusiasm here. It's sadly
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

pathetic. Other tactics are to dominate MIRT and the host forum. Sadly their efforts hardly make a dent in our enthusiasm.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. MSNBC Mute Sanders Nobody But Clinton. Same for other msm, but MSNBC is on steroids. Shameful and
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:44 AM
Apr 2016

unethical.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
71. Can't take credit. I saw that or something like it on DU recently. Wish I could remember
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

which poster I stole it from, but I can't

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
4. I think she was trying to illustrate a point that not everyone at his rallies are eligible to vote
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:44 AM
Apr 2016

here in NY.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
59. True ... But she got duped! ... Tricked I tell you! ...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

She asked the question off camera ... and they all said they were not; then, when she asked on camera ... they all changed their answer!

How am I doing?

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
61. They will likely find a group of suitable "ineligibles" on a later broadcast to "set the narrative"
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

since winging it didn't work.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
10. I bet not everyone at Hillary's rallies are eligible to vote
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

Heck, I bet there were non-citizens, and underaged people, and who knows what else at her rallies.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
13. As we've seen before...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

just because you say you are a registered Democrat doesn't mean you are.

Ineligible to vote is not something I'd admit on a world broadcast while standing in a Bernie line.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. That's exactly what she was trying to do
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

But illustrated an opposite point of what she was trying to prove.

People don't stand in line for hours on a chilly morning if they are not engaged.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. Trying and doing are not the same thing. She tried to illustrate a point that was not illustrated
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

at all. Not a good on air moment for the cable talker.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
8. I remember when CNN was in a room full of women just before the Iowa caucuses.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

And they were embarrassed to find that they were all Bernie Sanders supporters.

After they tried their young white male meme for one of the first times.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
14. To be honest, I'm not sure how much is bias and how much is stupidity.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

Reporters sure seem to have a lot of stupid in their blood.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. For every one person at his rally there are hundreds of Democrats registered to vote in NY...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

...who don't give a fuck about big Naderesque mosh pits.


Feel The Math!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
88. That's correct
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

and a lot of them are calling voters to get them to volunteer for Bernie, and get out the vote.

Clinton M.A.T.H.= Mythological Assumption That Hillarywillwin.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. hunt jumped the shark a long time ago
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

she has been "covering" his campaign by dismissing it and tearing it down at every opportunity.

gods, i hope there is video of this embarassment. she deserves it.

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
29. A buddy of mine thinks she is so hot.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

He said he wishes she wasn't gay.
I don't care if she is gay or not and that has nothing to do with this, I do think that she often looks for the most negative things to point out in her reports.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. i can't really speak to her hotness
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

not because I am incapable of looking at her physical attractiveness or lack, but because her obvious partisanship is so vile as to bring out her inner ugliness. and inner ugliness cant be covered with makeup or a nice hairdo.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
18. the question is
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

Did they just register as democrats ? I thought that in NY it does not take effect until after november. i.e it takes a cycle before you can vote in a primary under a new registration. If you are a new voter no such problem.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
31. So you think any...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

independent and Republican who wants to vote in our Democratic Party primary should be allowed to - that would be a fair representation of what Democrats want in a candidate?

Only if the independent candidate (the admitted DINO) wins the nomination will it ever be fair.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
36. Are voting rights a flexible issue to favor a candidate?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

A slide rule should not be required to register and determine what party you are eligible to vote for. And excessively long delay or otehr impediments to prevent people from getting excited about a candidate and voting for him or her is undemocratic.....

.If it were not in the interests of the Clinton camp to limit primary voting, I suspect you might be singing a different tune as a voting rights question -- but in this circumstance it is helpful to take the GOP "make it hard to vote" position.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
44. This is a political party primary.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

Mostly like-minded people.

Constitutional voting rights kick in in November.

Where your vote is meaningless if your state swings for the other party.

The Democratic primaries are more democratic than the general election! If you get votes, you generally get delegates. It's not winner-take-all.

Your problem is how Democrats vote and your personal dislike for the Democratic nominee.

I can see why "Democratic Underground" is so annoying to those who despise Democrats.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
47. You are not being intellectually consistent
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

Despising Clinton and her brand of democrats is not despising "Democrats" generically.

That is no different than saying despising Sanders supporters is despising "Democrats" generically.

And the idea of encouraging voter participation is not something you change your mind on depending on the current mix of candidates.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
49. Senator Sanders (I-VT)* is not a Democrat.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

He is an independent running as a "Democrat" to increase his chances of winning political party support - the only historically reliable path to the presidency.

A great number of "Bernie supporters" - particularly at DU and in comment sections everywhere - are not Democrats and will not support any Democratic nominee other than Sanders.

Democrats overwhelmingly support the Democratic candidate. Which is why Sanders is losing.

We have our Democratic Party. We don't need DINO's explaining what is wrong with us intellectually.

Where do "Democrats for Trump" get to post at DU?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
75. I am begging these guys to close them everywhere
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

It has worked great in CA for the Rs...hell, next logical step, close it in tje General. The closed primary system worked in the past. But yup, do it. Get these unelectable candidates and watch independents, the majority of voters nowadays, vote for third parties in general elections. It will accelerate the already ongoing process.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
90. Look up the FEC filings and you shall find...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

The following document: http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/533/15031422533/15031422533.pdf
In box 4 it shows party affiliation. This is in effect his registration with the Democratic party.
This is an official document, so Sanders is OFFICIALLY a Democrat, like it or not.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
97. So, what are you sayilng?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016
A great number of "Bernie supporters" - particularly at DU and in comment sections everywhere - are not Democrats and will not support any Democratic nominee other than Sanders.


A great number of Bernie supporters ARE democrats, who have voted dem all their lives, but some of them are so sick of watching the democratic party move to the right, that they are having 2nd thoughts about voting to continue that pattern. They may leave the party if it continues this way, or they may stay with the party and just not vote in elections that don't offer them anything...who knows?

I know that just because you are a democrat, does not mean you will vote for, or have to vote for "ANY" democratic candidate. Some people are not so tied to the party that it rises above their moral code.

Many of us will vote for Hillary if she wins, just to keep the republicans out, but that does not make us any more a democrat than those dems who won't vote for her. It just means we are more terrified of a republican in the white house than they are. They are more risk averse, or less motivated to vote...that's all.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
99. I capitalize Democratic Party and Democrat.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

Because I'm a lifelong Democrat and I respect my fellow Democrats.

This is why I dislike GD-P so much.

You know - "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck..."

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
100. sorry, my typing is not up to your standards
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

I don't get hung up on capitalization or punctuation any more, and I don't get hung up by labels any more (like democrat) either. You can go through life being uptight if you want. I found it to be too wearying.

I am a bit of a grammar and spelling nut. I do have to check my posts for that, because I hate it when I use the wrong word, or spell it wrong. I still mess that up sometimes, but I'm human.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
102. Yes, in my case, it's typing.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

As I age, my hands are slower on the keyboard, and the arthritis makes reaching for keys (like the caps lock) harder, so I go the easy route and just forgo it often. I still try to capitalize the beginning of sentences, but often find myself not even doing that.

Age does affect your typing. When I write by hand, I do usually capitalize all names and proper nouns. But I don't write by hand very often, as my hands are too shaky for that. I can't even read my own writing any more.

I am a democrat. Why would I disrespect myself? I'm just not hung up by rules like you are. I was when I was younger. I used to do editing, so I was pretty picky. Age has a way of mellowing you out.

edited post to change typ[ng to typing in title...see what I mean? I don't want to have to edit everything I do. I type too slow as it is, and I think it's just OTC to have to be that perfect on an internet forum. If this were an official letter, I'd be much more careful.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
103. You seem to capitalize just fine when it suits you.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

And there's that little d democrat again.

I'm not picky about spelling and punctuation, typos. But a consistency in tone and disrespect? Too obvious.

I remember seeing Senator John Kennedy at a rally at the state capitol in Albany, NY when my parents lived in Troy.

We're all getting older.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
105. I have been noticing a lot of missing caps
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

Today I already went back and edited one post for a missing cap at the beginning of a sentence...because that is so drilled into my psyche that it still leaves me feeling like an unfinished sentence. I've been noticing a lof ot missing punctuation, like missing periods at the end of my sentences. I've also been noticing problems with hand skills and speech aphasia.

We don't all age the same. You are lucky to be aging without any depreciation of nimbleness.

You can make an issue of this all you want, but to me a democrat is a democrat, whether the word is capitalized or not. It does not change meaning for me. If it does for you, that's your problem.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
107. So you'll go back and capitalize and fix typos...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

when it matters to you.

But not little d democrat, 'cause that don't matter.

Back to where we started.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
108. I go back and fix things that are a hang up for me
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

capitalization is not a hang up for me, except when typing someone's name, or starting a sentence. There is only one word (name) that bothers me and I have to fight myself not to capitalize it, and that is god. I am an atheist, so in this case it is a way of not accepting the reality of this entity. But that is the only time it's a deliberate thing, or not a hangup. And maybe it's not even a hangup for the beginning of a sentence...because capitalization helps people read the text easier, whereas capitalizing a word or name in the text is not that important.

Your trying to turn this into something it isn't is very telling. You need to learn to relax and enjoy life.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
123. So ageism is an OK form of prejudice?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:21 AM
Apr 2016

How about sexism and racism? Are they OK as well? Yallerpig is more like it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
114. There is more... the AP manual of style
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016

does not capitalize democrat or republican. They are capitalized when the word party follows and for the dems that is Democratic Party.

I just find this amusing as hell, but also avoids real issues.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
115. I'm not outraged - I know who you are.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:32 PM
Apr 2016
A great number of "Bernie supporters" - particularly at DU and in comment sections everywhere - are not Democrats and will not support any Democratic nominee other than Sanders.

If you are not a Democrat, why pretend?

Just to post at DU? Just to disrupt at DU?

What a waste of time.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
118. I have been a registered Democrat for 15 years, because of the closed party system
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

that leaves me without a primary vote here in Oregon. Different from the other two states i lived in where i voted for the dems even tho i was independent.
I didn't dislike Senator Clinton in 2008, but much preferred Obama.
This season, I've had a lot of time to #research.

I'm voting FOR something for the first time in my life. It feels good

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
83. Got it wrong, he's a DIPO, not a DINO
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

DINO better applies to Hillary. Bernie is a Democrat In Policy Only. If Democrats were actually what they claim to be, Bernie would accept the Democrat label gladly.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
85. Hillary best represents our Democratic goals and aspirations.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

I don't need DINO's telling me we are all really democratic socialists - or socialists. I live in the USA - definitely not a socialist-leaning country at this time.

I don't think Republican presidents help us - which is what Bernie would get us.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
91. If your goals and aspirations
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

are to bolster the rich, on the backs of the middle class, you are correct.
And I have more news for you, we have had a socialist leaning country for a very long time. Social Security, Public schools, Public libraries, Public works, public roads, are ALL socialist characteristics of our country. And that's just the very start of the list.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
96. What about people who just turned 18?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

Should they have to wait an entire year before they can vote?

drray23

(7,633 posts)
109. thats not an issue if you are a first time voter.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

You can register as a new voter and declare your affiliation and it will take hold for the upcoming election.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
57. You had to be registered by 10/9.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

My understanding is that if you were reg. Dem by that date you can vote in the primary.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
89. If you are already a registered as any voter in NY
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

you have to wait until the next primary to vote if you register for a party that does primaries. If you are newly registered, simply register for a party that has primaries, and you can vote in the upcoming primary. That's the way it works in NY. I know, because I have worked the elections for YEARS.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
23. it seems Casey gets asked a lot of 'Bernie negative' questions when she is live...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

it is merely an M$NBC tactic, which is understandable in view of most of their coverage of Bernie...

she gets asked a lot of questions designed to have her 'agree' with the premise of the question...rarely does she offer any refutation of the premise or an opposing take...

none of this is probably remotely in her power to affect....

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
121. i have said this many times
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:59 AM
Apr 2016

I have lived in

Alabama - Florida - Texas - Wyoming - North Carolina - Colorado - California - Michigan

The south ______ - if i fill in the blank i will get another alert

sad

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
25. BUSTED! for Bad Journalism
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

You don't write a story first and then go looking for the facts.

That's called advocacy. Oh, right.

blm

(113,065 posts)
84. Pretty blatant. But then, I never liked her style of reporting.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016

She's a 'villager' through and through, imo.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. She embarrasses herself a lot
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

I am not a fan of the whole MSNBC elections crew. It could be ageism but they all seem like kids to me.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
37. I hate to say it but i agree.....I feel like i'm watching a college network
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

But that's just age I guess. I remember watching people like Walter Cronkheit, Frank McGee and Huntley Brinkly as the adults.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. To be fair, some of the older folks on other networks are also awful
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:17 AM
Apr 2016

Wolf Blitzer, for instance.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
42. True....But what's weird is....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

One would think if it were merely a matter of age It might be possible to look at old news clips and think they look like kids.

But when I;ve seen replays of Walter and most of the reporters of that era, I still see them as responsible adults and authoritative journalists, even though they were 20 years younger than I am at the time.

I think it has a lot to do with lowering of standards.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Agreed
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

MSNBC in particular seems to skew in this direction. CNN, for all its many faults, seems to have a more diverse group age-wise.

I also think there are too many "in jokes" and silliness on these broadcasts.

And the debate lead-up is seriously like a reality show. The promos are preposterous on all networks.

I am seeing more and more that it's really just show business.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
65. I loved them too , but they weren't on the bus following a candidate.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

They were the anchors and convention reporters. I'm pretty sure the reporters on the trail were mostly kids then too, except for those who joined for short hops to write long articles about the candidate/campaign.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
48. "Here's the problem Sanders faces in the election" Nailed It!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

Talking heads that repeat memes, instead of real journalists that report facts. THOSE are the problems Bernie faces!

Peregrine Took

(7,415 posts)
53. I think the reporters are encouraged to come up with something negative to say...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

such as "the crowd is smaller than expected" etc. Then the camera shows the huge crowd....ooops!

KPN

(15,646 posts)
54. You know. This stuff is so damn frustrating.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

Corporations and MSM select our leaders, run our country, and control what people know (to the maximum extent they can). It's so ridiculously transparent.

Here's heresy for you all -- and this post will probably get hidden because of it (hell maybe I'll get banned):

This situation is so caustically and fatally bad that I frankly would not be surprised if Berners urge Bernie to run as an Independent in the GE should he not win the nomination. I doubt that Bernie would do that. But if he did, I would have a very hard time not supporting him.

PCPrincess

(68 posts)
64. You are Not Alone In That Thought
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

and there are many many people who would agree with you (myself included).

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
58. A Hillary supporter posted here yesterday that 1/2 at Bernie's Brooklyn rally were not registered.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

There was no evidence they could provide of course. I'm sure this was a rumor started by Hillary's campaign now what I've read your post. Just another attempt to marginalize Bernie.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
66. In my large college dorm in NY...more than half of the people I talk to did not register on time
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

so it certainly is a problem in some areas.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
74. We need back old style media.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

I covered the Cruz rally last night. You know when this is bad? I have been told this about media manipulation by voters on both side of the aisle. This is when those memes lose effectiveness.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
78. We need journalistic standards for sure
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

It used to be you had to pay your dues doing scut-work as a reporter, and move up progressively through the ladder for years before making it into the "big time."

Now, people get elevated instantly because they are cute or are in the right place right time....

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
80. And the local planning board is not covered anymore
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

You nuts? That is where the latest accident and kitty up a tree are. Those bring eyes in screen...the planning board...not so much

xynthee

(477 posts)
77. This is encouraging!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016

If 80% of would-be Bernie voters actually get to vote in the primary, I think he can pull this off.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
79. There was a lie posted on DU yesterday about half of Bernie's crowds not being registered
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

to vote.

What? Did they scientifically poll the crowd? No, they didn't.

This is more bullshit memes spread by the Clinton camp and their wiling sycophants who want this in the heads of New Yorkers, "Bernie can't win. Don't even bother. Please don't vote."

Screw them.

Scurrilous, cheap tricks. That's all they've got.

blm

(113,065 posts)
82. She's never appealed to me. She strikes me as one who only pushes 'village'
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

narratives.

No surprise she didn't find what she was looking for. heh

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
104. What was she thinking? That was yesterday's Smear of the Day from Camp Clinton
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

Didn't she get the email this morning? Or does it come out too late in the day to help her?

Response to Armstead (Original post)

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
116. The corporate media conglomerates do love their frames, it's easier to divide and conquer
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

the American People that way.

Thanks for the thread, Armstead.

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