2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhew! CNN forgets to discuss Hillary's racist skit this morning.
They were all over Tokengate and I was afraid they might give similar saturation coverage to her participation in a racist skit. Thank heavens we can count on the mainstream media to help Hillary negotiate her way through her self-inflicted wounds. Let's hope the Republicans don't find out about what she did since the video would make a nice anti-Hillary ad in the fall.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Appears to me that she has no clue what "CP" is, interprets in the way it means something to her " cautious politician".
My view is that , for her, it had no racial meaning.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in New York because she delayed announcing her run for the Senate and then delayed starting her campaign so long that people grew exacerbated and wondered if she was running at all.
People hearing this joke were probably supposed to "huh?" with De Blasio's CP time, then "oh!" and laugh with Hillary's "cautious politician" New Yorker-joke explanation.
As for the other meaning, those hoping this will somehow hurt her should just...keep on hoping for another week and see what happens.
Those just wondering about it might look to black writers and posters for their reactions and then evaluate the situation. Or they might decline to waste their time. These old pros didn't get up on that stage to commit political suicide.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The double standard at the core of this all is staggering
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Bernie was racist. Nor do I the think Hillary is racist. And of course there should be no double standard.
The media blows up everything sometimes I think to avoid real issues.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Trash sells.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Is that the point of your post and the pic in it?
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)I mean, he married one!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)It would seem not.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)They are not particularly good actors and you can see them trying to deliver their lines correctly.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Then she is clueless and got lead into racist crap.
The only way this would be more clearly a scripted skit is if the cue card guy were on stage.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Damn the MSM!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They'd prefer their manufactured outrage be focused on Hillary, and only on Hillary.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The hypocracy and cynical political manipulations are staggering.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)That's another nonsense outrage some of his supporters claim.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Last year -- after a long break from DU -- I read the discourse shortly after Sanders came onto the primary scene.
I was expecting to see the cranky old socialist nonsense. "Too far left for the Democratic Party"......That would be business as usual.
But I was absolutely appalled at all of the posts accusing him of being racially insensitive and his supporters as racist white progressives.....and all the "Sanders has a problem with..." crap.
The vehemence against Sanders and hios supporters on a racial basis was astounding. And the Clinton campaign was obviously seeding the ground for portraying her as the Champion of Minorities against Mean old Bigoted Sanders.
It made me especially angry because I have been following him for years -- and he is one of the most socially progressive peoplel in DC.
It continues to this day.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... people pointing out that Bernie's focus on "economic justice" seemed too narrow, and that he was missing the "social justice" aspect which is very important to many African Americans.
And when anyone pointed this out ... Sanders supporters on this site lost their minds. The attacks on DU's African American members is something that I won't forget.
And let me be clear ... there is a very distinct difference between Bernie, and some of his angriest supporters. To prove this, all we have to do is bring back the "Stockholm Syndrome" OPs, and the 100s of recs those received.
Of course Bernie does not suggest that African Americans are suffering from some set of mental issues, or are low information voters, because they don't support him.
He's not a racist.
But you will find plenty of his supporters pushing such narratives ... and some of them are now "very upset" about the skit. Hard to take it seriously.
In any case, no one thinks Bernie is a racist.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Amazing.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)She made a brief cameo in a 10 minute skit spoofing Hamilton featuring one of the stars of that show and Bill de Blasio. The skit was definitely stupid and Bill de Blasio's rapping was embarrassing, but Hillary's appearance was completely innocuous (until the Hillary haters got a hold of it).
dinkytron
(568 posts)have nothing nice to say....
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Elections aren't decided on who still thinks subways use tokens or who takes 5 tries to swipe a card. Silly season moves the needle for the media, not the voters.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dinkytron
(568 posts)I have noticed the younger generation is very sensitive in this regard. This may die down but it will not go away. Just like the transcripts. which probably have similar "slights."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dinkytron
(568 posts)why would she even be part of this potentially hurtful skit? And right on the heels of Bills BLM guffaw? How in the measured world of politics can not be perceived as anything but a "calculated" doubling down on Bill's BLM remarks. It's dog whistle politics. What else can it be?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)he probably learned from his own kids.
Good luck with that.
dinkytron
(568 posts)think he learned it from. But thanks for the good luck wishes. You are as sincere as your candidate.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)So you really can't tag her without going through him.
Good luck with that.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)So fucking clueless.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)speaking of so fucking clueless....
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Thank you kind Caucasian for letting me know what's going on in MY world.
rachacha
(173 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)White person: "Slavery is an awful institution. I can't believe other whites would treat black people so heinously. Those who keep slaves are horrible people"
Black person: "Thank you kind Caucasian for letting me know what's going on in MY world."
White person: "Oh, okay. Sorry I interfered and assumed I could help. Carry on."
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)How about this conversation instead? It happens constantly still.
White Person: Hey minority you don't know what's good for you, listen to me & I'll tell you what the proper thing to think & opinion to have.
Minority: But that doesn't work for me, I think this is better or how we do things.
White Person: Well that's just because you're uniformed or have a mental illness, I know what's good for you.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Impressive, if true.
And, the story just broke yesterday afternoon so I doubt most people even know about it.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)we tend to have a bit of a better understanding of our culture than some random white person that only deals with minorities in the most artificial of settings.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)or are they in an exempt category for your reference?
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)I mean actually associating with minorities in an informal casual setting. Where we can relax & not have to worry about being judged.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)and i was wondering if the Clinton's enjoyed those 'artificial' settings or if their 'settings' were part of a daily life (as opposed to public political activities) of personal interaction therefore making them more 'real'....
i wonder if Bill or Hillary were ever sitting with some friends of theirs in a public place, like a restaurant or bar or something, and been refused service because of who they were with....i wonder if they were ever in that 'setting'...
You can't possibly be serious.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)well...almost, anyway....
nice over-generalization, too, on your part...
you are a regular Alicia Silverstone...
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)time he is probably well aware of the phrase. Maybe some of you should actually try & get to know some instead of just pretending to know what's best for us?
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)I mean I don't see it being mentioned on MSNBC either.
I mean it's not like the incident had a poster made up about it and plastered all over the areas where people would see it on their way to work.
almost:
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)It's just a little bit of white privilege racism. No biggies for Clinton supporters ... superdelegates, Bill racist rant to BLM, "CP Time".
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)Response to Karmadillo (Reply #26)
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dinkytron
(568 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The time, it was Mayor de Blasio giving himself a bad rap.
The citys chief executive, with the unlikely help of pal Hillary Clinton, delved into hip-hop Saturday night at the annual Inner Circle production.
De Blasio shared the New York Hilton stage with Leslie Odom Jr., who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical Hamilton, while unleashing his inner Run-BDB.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-drops-rhymes-circle-show-clinton-ma-article-1.2595005
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)The "mainstream media" (congrats to Bernie folks for appropriating that BS right-wing term)... they're ignoring another grasp-at-straws gate. If they don't start biting on some of this bullshit we might have to actually get more voters in the primary elections to win the nomination!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Like the time the New York Times didn't tell the voters about Bush and his turning NSA surveillance on We the People. Ha ha ha. What a joker! They really got us that time! Yuk yuk.
Bush wanted to keep spying secret because 'it revealed him as law-breaker'
http://www.ufppc.org/us-a-world-news-mainmenu-35/3901-commentary-bush-wanted-to-keep-spying-secret-because-it-revealed-him-as-law-breaker.html
Response to Karmadillo (Original post)
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KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)OMG! I used a Yiddish term in a bad bit of sarcastic humor and I'm not Jewish lots of Jewish friends who use the term still I must be an Anti-Semite.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Corporate Pimps!
Get it?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Heck, he's lambasted because he wants to go to the Vatican to talk about inequality.