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LexVegas

(6,067 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:53 AM Apr 2016

If I had seen the same level of concern about "low information voters"....."Confederate States".....

"Stockholm Syndrome" , etc, from some as I've seen about DeBlasio's joke....I wouldn't doubt the sincerity of the outrage quite so much.

We see it.

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If I had seen the same level of concern about "low information voters"....."Confederate States"..... (Original Post) LexVegas Apr 2016 OP
And we understand it. And we do vote. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #1
can you tell? reddread Apr 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #3
You noticed that too? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #6
Yep. No concern there. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #7
Leaving my +1 for the hidden post here. Your point is sound LexVegas. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Apr 2016 #11
I got a hide for saying that people stopped being concerned rbrnmw Apr 2016 #13
Broken jury system! CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #20
Their alert swarms have been active. Dissent will not be tolerated! CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #34
In nomine Bernardus CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #36
Of course that OP also targeted LGBT people and that is somehow forgotten in recounting of it.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #16
+1 Agschmid Apr 2016 #23
To be blunt... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #4
You don't speak for 99.9% of DUers, sorry. Nor, IMO, are you truly seeing through their/our hearts. JudyM Apr 2016 #8
As one who voted for Bernie, I stand by my ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #19
Look what you did, though. "Bernie supporters would never, but I don't know..." CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #21
That's completely your interpretation. I honestly did not mean it as a slam. I honestly do not JudyM Apr 2016 #25
You know what could change low info voters into well informed voters? nc4bo Apr 2016 #5
Whoosh nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
Bingo. A lot of people rec'd and supported that banned asshole's racist rants. JTFrog Apr 2016 #10
And a lot of others made strenuous and exactling objections to that poster's vile works. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #17
The OP did not object to WillyT's posts against LGBT. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #18
Many of us did. Repeatedly. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #24
Fascinating rbrnmw Apr 2016 #12
Nice! jcgoldie Apr 2016 #14
So, just to be clear, any outrage you feel towards racism is partisan? Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #15
I concur KingFlorez Apr 2016 #26
What Hillary did was wrong. Period. pinebox Apr 2016 #27
The thing is, other than the Sanders camp, which is mostly white Tarc Apr 2016 #28
Exactly. Insincere outrage. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #30
I wouldn't be so sure pinebox Apr 2016 #32
I disagree pinebox Apr 2016 #33
Yes, the whiterage (white + outrage. pretty cool, eh?) is readily apparent Tarc Apr 2016 #35
Seriously? Whiterage? Really? Cute racism. pinebox Apr 2016 #47
If the glove fits... Tarc Apr 2016 #48
Tone deaf nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #37
I'm happy for you, but much of the commentary thus far places this in the "gaffe" category Tarc Apr 2016 #38
Yup continues to be tone deaf nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #39
I find it amusing that you continue to be whiteraged on behalf of A-As over this issue Tarc Apr 2016 #41
Now we go down personal attack alley nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #42
I'll keep asking the question for as long as you decide to dodge it Tarc Apr 2016 #43
I cover racial issues nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #44
Let me know when your guy actually comes up with a stance that addresses their issues Tarc Apr 2016 #45
Since he is not my guy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #46
I think a lot of it is a reaction to the hypocrisy from the Clinton camp and MSM Armstead Apr 2016 #29
You're part of why the racial well is poisoned on DU Prism Apr 2016 #31
It is gotten to the point nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #40

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rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
13. I got a hide for saying that people stopped being concerned
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

when it wasn't about Hillary in the AA group. It was the night of the SC primary when they said black folks there had a master/slave mentality. I don't answer their concern posts because they are transparent.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
20. Broken jury system!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

Everyone who voted to hide DanTex's post should be barred from serving. Ridiculous bias on display there.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
34. Their alert swarms have been active. Dissent will not be tolerated!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie must not be criticized, or questioned.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. Of course that OP also targeted LGBT people and that is somehow forgotten in recounting of it....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016

Also forgotten are the many Bernie supporters who strongly objected to that bullshit, myself included. Erasing LGBT voices from that history is a nasty thing to do. We don't fit your narrative so you refuse to defend us from such attacks and also refuse to acknowledge our own confrontations of that poster. It is simply not ethical to do that. What it is is exploitative and bigoted.

I put myself all the way out there in calling that shit out. Did you? Of course not.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
4. To be blunt...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:31 AM
Apr 2016

I doubt the outrage of 99.9% of supporters of either candidate on this page anymore. We (way to go us!!!) have reduced people down to the color of their skin, their gender, their religion, etc...

...

...but, we don't really give a shit about them as long as our guy wins.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
8. You don't speak for 99.9% of DUers, sorry. Nor, IMO, are you truly seeing through their/our hearts.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

If that is what you see, that is pure projection.

Maybe some of us don't get all the intricacies of racial issues but we want equal treatment, opportunity and social justice. This on the part of Sanders supporters... I can't speak for Hillary supporters' understanding and motivations.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
21. Look what you did, though. "Bernie supporters would never, but I don't know..."
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

"...about those Clinton supporters." You draped yourself in morality and then took a cheap shot at the opposition.

Stop pretending you're better than anyone while you go on about "equal treatment." If you want it so badly, try living it first. Meet your own standard, maybe.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
25. That's completely your interpretation. I honestly did not mean it as a slam. I honestly do not
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

completely understand progressives who support Hillary and so can't say how they feel.

Peace.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. You know what could change low info voters into well informed voters?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

Nationwide access to reasonably priced high speed Internet services.

Did you realize there are huge swaths of countryside that lacks access to the above?

Information is power. Too bad we're too busy catering to the MIC and Corporate Grifters, Inc. to wire this country up.





 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
10. Bingo. A lot of people rec'd and supported that banned asshole's racist rants.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

We do indeed see it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. And a lot of others made strenuous and exactling objections to that poster's vile works.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

I sure as fuck did. So did other Bernie supporters. You seem, PFLAG to have forgotten that that OP targeted LGBT as well as African Americans. You also seem to have forgotten that several of us did the bulk of the work countering that poster. For months I objected to his racism and homophobia and also, by the way, general cross party love for Reagan and other Republicans. He had made OP's complaining that Reagan voters were seen as homophobic.

Apparently, If One Voted For Reagan, They Were Anti-Gay...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026231263

Many of you failed to stand up to him. Repeatedly. For months.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Many of us did. Repeatedly.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

Go check out my recent hidden post about the Pope. Look at why the alerter determined it should be hidden.

Some people said does not an argument make. There simply has to be more.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
14. Nice!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

CP Time-gate... brought to you by the hordes of DU Bernie voters who can't figure out why black people won't vote for their guy so they must have stockholm syndrome.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
15. So, just to be clear, any outrage you feel towards racism is partisan?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

That is a really strange way to approach stuff like this.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
27. What Hillary did was wrong. Period.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

In fact, whoever does this is wrong, period. I don't give a crap who you are.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
28. The thing is, other than the Sanders camp, which is mostly white
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

no one seems to be all that jacked up about a lame "CP Time" joke. The A-A community certainly isn't.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
35. Yes, the whiterage (white + outrage. pretty cool, eh?) is readily apparent
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

The A-As I've heard from so far are more eye-rolling over the painful lameness of the joke than actually upset about it.

Perhaps if Sanders and his followers got involved in something that is of actual interest to many African-Americans, that would be the more productive route to take.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
48. If the glove fits...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:23 PM
Apr 2016

Camp Sanders is using this like a political football, while many black people don't seem to give two shits about it.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
38. I'm happy for you, but much of the commentary thus far places this in the "gaffe" category
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

than anything else. I fully realize it would be in Sanders' best interests to make this into a Macaca moment to deliver to him New York at the 11th hour, but it just ain't happening.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
41. I find it amusing that you continue to be whiteraged on behalf of A-As over this issue
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

When they by and large are not.

Why is that?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
43. I'll keep asking the question for as long as you decide to dodge it
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

This is why Sanders does so poorly with persons of color; treating them like a political commodity.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
44. I cover racial issues
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

I post those stories here, which are ignored by both sides so kind of amusing.

By the way, keep treating PoC as Lego blocks. I find that adorable.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
29. I think a lot of it is a reaction to the hypocrisy from the Clinton camp and MSM
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie was branded as a racist -- or at least as someone who "has a problem with" -- AA's from before he evemn started campaigning.

Then when he got testy and briefly snapped at some BLM protesters (in a non racial way) it was jumped on and amplified. "See Bernie doesn't like Black people, and his supporters are just privileged white progressives."

Jad Clinton and her supporters not tried to paint Sanders in that way....this stupid little racially insensitive joke would not be jumped on...(at least not any more than it should be criticized for its insensitivity).

BTW -- the term :"low information voters" is a term that is not racial in context. It has often been used on DU and elsewhere to characterize people who vote Republican.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
31. You're part of why the racial well is poisoned on DU
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

Because people play partisan games with social justice issues.

Either something is right or something is wrong.

But once you go down, "Well, I don't care, because some other guy said . . ." then you erode your credibility and say to everyone reading, "These issues matter. Kind of. But not too much, because I'm willing to make them an inconsequential plaything."

I called out Stockholm Syndrome. I even called out others when the Seattle BLM protesters were getting a shellacking.

Because there is right and there is wrong. Issues are important only if you treat them as important.

You are not treating racism as important here. You're treating it like a childish game where points are being kept.

If the goal is to sow racial division and ensure the Democratic party won't tangibly address social injustice for a few election cycles, people on both sides, you included, are doing a bang up job.

Keep on truckin with all that.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
40. It is gotten to the point
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

Since we cover race issues, that I consider that crowd tone deaf on a day I feel generous

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